On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok then.
>
> To sum up
>  - at the moment I don't bother about Artifactory integration
>  - I implement Bintray Connector as RepositoryManager and as Serchable

>  - term Extension does not refer only to typical XWiki extensions that
> contain org.xwiki.component.annotation.@Components or XWiki pages but
> generally all JARs, that can be later used e.g. in groovy script

Or as dependency of a more XWiki oriented extesion too. Most extension
on http://extensions.xwiki.org depends on JARs located on Maven
Central that don't have anything to do with XWiki.

>  - for the future I would be very useful to extend Extension Repository UI
> with an option to choose the repository from which we want to search
> extensions (e.g. search in Bintray JCenter, search in Extensions.org ect.)

Definitely.

>
> Did I forget about sth important?

Sounds good :)

>
> Best,
> Krzysztof
>
>
> 2017-06-11 18:50 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Thomas Mortagne
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > Bintray JCenter may be connected even today using Maven Connector.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Maven Connector does not allow for searching, but in the case of
>> JCenter
>> >>> > that stores in the vast major non-xwiki extensions searching is
>> >>> > unnecessary.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think you understood the main goal of this project. The point
>> >>> is not to install XWiki stuff, Extension Manager can install any JARs
>> >>> and JCenter is full of useful JARs.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Yes - it seems that I misunderstood. The name of the project was "More
>> >> extension repositories" and in my application I wrote only about
>> extensions.
>> >> But anyway it does not change a lot for my project - if as you wrote
>> >> "Extension Manager can install any JARs".
>> >
>> > All JARs are extensions from Extension Manager point of view. Even if
>> > most of them are not specific to XWiki, the XWiki specific extension
>> > themself trigger a lot of dependencies among JARs which don't have
>> > anything to do with XWiki because they use those. Also XWiki is not
>> > just a wiki, it's actually a development platform.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Of course I can still prepare extension resolving artifacts and
>> versions
>> >>> of
>> >>> > packages from Bintray via it's rest api, leaving space for future
>> feature
>> >>> > of searching when Bintray's API will be richer. The question is
>> what's
>> >>> more
>> >>> > usefull or needed.
>> >>>
>> >>> If it does not support search then it's useless.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It does support search but in very simple way as described on design
>> page:
>> >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray#Investigationreport2
>> >> searching goes only thorough names and descriptions.
>> >
>> > This is alrea
>>
>> This is already nice IMO, I was not really expecting much more. Sure
>> it won't cover the whole Extension Repository search API but it's OK.
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> So lets imagine that someone connects JCenter (Bintray) (with searching
>> >> feature) in it's Xwiki instance, goes to Extension Magager and search
>> for
>> >> some extension putting e.g. LDAP. This will return a lot of results from
>> >> JCenter (completely not needed), among which there'll be XWiki LDAP
>> >> Authenticator extension - difficult to find.
>> >
>> > One more element to keep in mind: there is priority support in
>> > repository sources so if you give a low priority to JCenter it's going
>> > to appear after the result of the search on
>> > http://extensions.xwiki.org.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I see two solutions:
>> >>  - not enabling searching at all for Bintray
>> >
>> > Would be it totally useless IMO.
>> >
>> >>  - enabling searching of Bintray but, adding in Extension Manager UI
>> option
>> >> to select from which repository search
>> >
>> > Yes this is something we need to do anyway but it's out of scope for
>> > your GSOC so as you want.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> WDYT?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Best,
>> >>> > Krzysztof
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2017-06-09 15:23 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <
>> [email protected]>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Very surprising, I really tough Bintray was a cloud of Artifactory
>> >>> >> instances...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Since the main use case is to support Bintray jcenter I think you
>> >>> >> should concentrate on Bintray APi support only and skip Artifactory
>> >>> >> for now.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
>> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I've investigater Artifactory and Bintray APIs. They are totally
>> >>> >> different.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I updated desing page:
>> >>> >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> >>> >> MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > 2017-06-08 11:35 GMT+02:00 Krzysiek Płachno <
>> >>> [email protected]>:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Ok - I got it (I confused in my mind ExtensionRepositorySource
>> >>> >> >> with ExtensionRepository)
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'll compare in detail the apis of Artifactory and Bintray - if
>> >>> they're
>> >>> >> >> (almost) the same - it makes sense to do it as you described.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> KP
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> 2017-06-08 11:26 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <
>> >>> [email protected]>:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Krzysiek Płachno
>> >>> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>> > Ok - then.
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > So:
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> > 1. Do I understand well that the advantage of Rest connection
>> over
>> >>> >> >>> native
>> >>> >> >>> > Maven connection is that when using maven we cannot search
>> repo?
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> Yes you don't have live search in standard Maven repository. In
>> some
>> >>> >> >>> repository you can download an index but that's all.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> > 2. The goal would be to produce an extension with two
>> components
>> >>> >> >>> > ExtensionRepositoryFactory:  'bintray' and 'artifactory' which
>> >>> >> sharing
>> >>> >> >>> the
>> >>> >> >>> > same logic will allow to connect Bintray and Artifactory? Or
>> just
>> >>> >> >>> > one ExtensionRepositoryFactory with name 'artifactory' to be
>> used
>> >>> >> also
>> >>> >> >>> for
>> >>> >> >>> > both? This naming is a bit important since in xwiki.properties
>> >>> whilst
>> >>> >> >>> > giving url to external repo user also gives type of repo. (As
>> >>> >> >>> > regards ExtensionRepositorySource components - they are
>> completely
>> >>> >> >>> hidden
>> >>> >> >>> > so it may be one for both Artifactory and Bintray)
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> If Bintray use Artifactory REST API then there should be only
>> one
>> >>> >> >>> 'artifactory' ExtensionRepositoryFactory.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> ExtensionRepositorySource point is to provide default repository
>> >>> (for
>> >>> >> >>> example extensions.xwiki.org or nexus.xwiki.org) so it only
>> make
>> >>> sense
>> >>> >> >>> for Bintray jcenter (unless jcenter does not expose REST API). I
>> >>> >> >>> totally skipped the fact that anyone was able to create a
>> Bintray
>> >>> >> >>> instance and I was actually only thinking about jcenter.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > KP
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> > 2017-06-07 10:12 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne <
>> >>> >> [email protected]>:
>> >>> >> >>> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> Some comments:
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> The difference between Artifactory and Bintray you are
>> describing
>> >>> >> >>> >> don't really matter for your use case IMO.
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> The only thing you should deal with are:
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> * downloading artifacts
>> >>> >> >>> >> * searching for artifacts (that is actually the only feature
>> >>> brought
>> >>> >> >>> >> by this extension since as you said you can download
>> artifacts
>> >>> >> through
>> >>> >> >>> >> Maven access)
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> and AFAIK those two features have the same API in both cases
>> >>> since
>> >>> >> >>> >> Bintray is essentially a public Artifactory instance.
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> So unless I really missing something here you should IMO
>> work on
>> >>> two
>> >>> >> >>> >> extensions (on just two component in the same extension):
>> >>> >> >>> >> * an ExtensionRepositoryFactory for Artifactory
>> >>> >> >>> >> * a ExtensionRepositorySource which automatically register
>> >>> Bintray
>> >>> >> >>> >> with the type "artifactory"
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Krzysiek Płachno
>> >>> >> >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Hey!
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > I investigated a bit Binatray and Artifactory and uploaded
>> >>> >> relatively
>> >>> >> >>> >> short
>> >>> >> >>> >> > raport:
>> >>> >> >>> >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> >>> >> >>> >> MoreextensionrepositoriesArtifactoryBintray
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Any comments, ideas, relfections - highly appreciated.
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Best,
>> >>> >> >>> >> > Krzysztof Płachno
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >>
>> >>> >> >>> >>
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