On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Caty,
>
> > On 29 May 2018, at 17:23, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Just to make sure we are on the same page since there were some
> ambiguities
> > on the proposal, I've put some screenshot on how it will look like:
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> IdeaVisibleSave#HProposal10.x
>
> Could you give some context to explain why we need a VOTE and what you’re
> asking to VOTE about?
>
> AFAIK there’s no need to VOTE on having Visible Save button since:
> * We already discussed and decided to implement visible save
> * It was already put twice in the roadmap and is currently in the 10.5
> roadmap (which is already started), and nobody complained
>
> So if your email is about bringing some variations to what was decided,
> it’s fine but why does it need a VOTE? A simple proposal would have been
> enough IMO.
>
> > This proposal extracts the save controls and puts them on a fixed bottom
> > bar.
>
> Does it mean that the vertical space for the editor is constrained and can
> never be larger than the viewport minus the vertical space for the save bar?
>
> Also on the http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> IdeaVisibleSave/after10.png screenshot the bar takes the full width but
> on the followings screenshots the bar doesn’t. What is proposed precisely?
>

So if the window has space, the buttons should be placed normally (
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/after10Full.png).
The save buttons are placed in a fixed bottom bar, only if they get out of
the view port (
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/after10.png).


Inline mode is more problematic because it has panels (looks a bit strange
to be full width, see
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaVisibleSave/after10Inline2.png
). Ideally the buttons should be kept in the container they refer to, so in
xwiki content. I made screenshots with how it would look on both modes, but
depends on what we can actually implement. Don't have an ideal answer for
inline mode.

Thanks,
Caty



>
> Could you explain what’s different between "Proposal for 9.x" and
> "Proposal for 10.x" on http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> IdeaVisibleSave#HProposal10.x
>
> I’ve checked quickly and I don’t see any difference visually.
>
> > There are some problems with the inline mode and with the responsive
> > versions.
> > With the inline version we could decide to keep the current
> > behavior and have the fixed bar only in Wiki and WYSIWYG modes. I guess
> we
> > should do some implementation tests and see what's possible.
>
> What problems?
>
> At this stage I can’t VOTE since I don’t know what’s the question and it
> seems to be missing some details (see my questions above).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> PS: It’s sad that we are so late on the design of visible save since we’ve
> had months to plan this. It was already put in a roadmap at least 6 months
> ago and then not finished and then put again in the roadmap several months
> ago. We could have had plenty of time to discuss/tune this. Now this means
> we are at risk of not finishing this for 10.5. Let’s hope we can catch up.
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
>
>

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