> On 20 Sep 2018, at 10:29, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> In fact it might already be clear enough that the option is unchecked
> in the UI. I was just thinking that maybe some people would always
> leave the default options while renaming a page and it might surprise
> them that the default behavior has changed.
Yes you’re right ;) but that’s actually the reason for this change! Most people
use the default and then get into trouble, that’s what we want to avoid. Now
for people who pay attention and voluntarily set the redirect, I don’t think it
would change much since they already pay attention…
Thanks
-Vincent
> Anyway I don't think it's
> a big deal in any case.
>
> Thanks,
> Adel
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:22 AM Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Sep 2018, at 09:54, Adel Atallah <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 but we have to make sure that users will be aware of this change.
>>
>> What do you suggest?
>>
>> IMO having it in the RN is enough.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:30 AM Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>
>>>> We see more and more wikis with tons of redirects and issues to manage
>>>> them, see https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14570
>>>>
>>>> “
>>>> Rationale for turning it off by default:
>>>> - Several users have reported a usability issue about automatic redirects.
>>>> The way they express it is the following: "I have duplicates pages in my
>>>> wiki. I don't understand why this is happening. I'm choosing to rename
>>>> pages and not to copy them but I still get duplicates in the Navigation
>>>> panel".
>>>> - Automatic redirects are especially useful for public wikis where users
>>>> can have bookmark on pages and you don't want to break them. It can also
>>>> be useful for internal wikis but it's less an issue.
>>>> - Even for public wikis not all pages need automatic redirects. Technical
>>>> pages don't need them for example.
>>>> “
>>>>
>>>> I’ve had Ludovic report that to me too again this morning.
>>>>
>>>> Since we’ve been knowing about the problem for a while already and since
>>>> it’s very easy to change the default behavior, I’d like to propose that we
>>>> turn it off by default in XWiki 10.8 (ie right now, or if you think it’s
>>>> really too dangerous in 10.9), and that we implement an option to
>>>> configure the default behavior later on
>>>> (https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13384).
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>
>>>>
>>
