It's good that we made this change :) , since there are users that have big
problems with it (as already stated by your examples). It's indeed useful
for Public Website, but the option can still be selected manually.

Thanks,
Caty

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:48 PM Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:

> So far:
> * Vincent: ok
> * Adel: ok
> * Thomas: ok
> * Marius: ok
> * Simon: ok
>
> I’ve now done it and documented it in the RN. Next step will be to provide
> a config option but not in 10.8 (too late for that).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > On 20 Sep 2018, at 07:30, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > We see more and more wikis with tons of redirects and issues to manage
> them, see https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14570
> >
> > “
> > Rationale for turning it off by default:
> > - Several users have reported a usability issue about automatic
> redirects. The way they express it is the following: "I have duplicates
> pages in my wiki. I don't understand why this is happening. I'm choosing to
> rename pages and not to copy them but I still get duplicates in the
> Navigation panel".
> > - Automatic redirects are especially useful for public wikis where users
> can have bookmark on pages and you don't want to break them. It can also be
> useful for internal wikis but it's less an issue.
> > - Even for public wikis not all pages need automatic redirects.
> Technical pages don't need them for example.
> > “
> >
> > I’ve had Ludovic report that to me too again this morning.
> >
> > Since we’ve been knowing about the problem for a while already and since
> it’s very easy to change the default behavior, I’d like to propose that we
> turn it off by default in XWiki 10.8 (ie right now, or if you think it’s
> really too dangerous in 10.9), and that we implement an option to configure
> the default behavior later on (https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13384).
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
>
>

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