Thanks Kathy--none of these designs is going to be perfect, but you're
right that the closer we can get the less work we'll have to do.  The
good thing about all of these designs is that they're very simple and
so it's easy to add things as needed.  I didn't see any of these as
being used as-is, in other words; we'll be changing things from the
color scheme down to the addition/removal of various items from the
design.

If everyone could take a look at the ones Kathy singled out to make
sure we make the best decision we can for our default skin that would
be great.  I don't see adding the navigation Kathy describes to the
Channel Nine design as a big deal but if one of these others gets us
closer and is equally or more acceptable from an aesthetic standpoint,
I'm fine with that.

Thanks,
Matt

On 2/1/06, Cook, Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From what I could see, Channel Nine doesn't have any builtin navigation
> or "bread crumbs".  I saw the external links in the right sidebar but no
> navigation menu.  Basically sidebar and top link menus where the top one
> is consistent across pages and lets you get to all the major areas of
> the site.  The side menu could vary somewhat depending on the page/app
> you are on.
>
> These seem to have the navigation hooks (probably others do as well)
> Purple Blinds
> Blue Haze
> Small Portal
> Symphony
>
> Since we will be able to change the theme with skins, we should decide
> which basic elements the site must have first and then choose some
> designs that meet those criteria.  Then narrow the list down.  I don't
> remember seeing a list of criteria for the elements.  I saw the list of
> overall site features, but that is not the same thing.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
>
> Kathy
>
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> OK folks, I think based on the feedback I got as compared with my own
> personal analysis of what structurally will work best for the site,
> Channel Nine seems to be a good choice.  I like Ditto Ditto as well but
> I'm not sure it's a big enough design structurally to handle what we
> want.
>
> So last chance for comments before we start moving on and cranking out
> some UI prototoypes--everyone cool with Channel Nine?
> http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2334
>
> Matt
>
> On 1/30/06, Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Good point, within reason.  In other words, if it's a huge amount of
> > work or a massive hack to get it looking "right" (i.e. within
> > acceptable parameters given the fact that it will never look
> > identical) in Opera, I don't think that needs to be a huge concern.
> > If we get it looking good in IE and FF, in my mind additional browser
> > like Opera and Safari are icing on the cake.  Between IE and FF I bet
> > you hit at least 99% of all users.  Safari's popular on the Mac but a
> > lot of Mac users use FF as their primary browser because Safari still
> > has some issues (at least when last I used it).
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 1/30/06, John Ivanoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Let's except that it isn't going to look the same in every browser.
> > >
> > > Let's find a "look" we like and we'll teak the code so it works in
> > > all "browsers", I'm not talking just about IE or FF. There are many
> > > browsers, platforms and devices out there and who knows what's
> > > comming.
> > >
> > > "bullet proof" design.
> > >
> > > On 1/30/06, Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > But those numbers are dropping fast--IE is down to 80% in Europe
> > > > (it's still at about 90% in the US), and of course among techies
> > > > like us Firefox use is extremely high.
> > > >
> > > > Obviously the app we build will have to work in both browsers and
> > > > most of the designs on oswd are compatible with both IE and
> Firefox.
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > > On 1/30/06, Ron Mast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Now now, there's nothing wrong with IE...lol. I'd say over 90%
> > > > > of the public uses it.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > > On 1/30/06, Cook, Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Yes I see the same behaviour in IE.  Need to reload each
> > > > > > individual
> > > > > page
> > > > > > in TRAC.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yet another reason not to use IE. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are any of these designs more likely to support sub-menus if
> > > > > > necessary and dynamically populating content?
> > > > >
> > > > > WYSIWYG with these designs--some of them already have sub-menus
> > > > > in the basic design, which means we wouldn't even have to worry
> > > > > about that level of design from a CSS and layout perspective.
> > > > > I'd say to get rolling the closer the design is to what we'll
> want/need, the better.
> > > > >
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