FWIW I uninstalled virtualbox ~ 6 months ago and I've not looked back.  

I did have a few issues early on with drivers but I can honestly say I haven't 
had one problem this year.

> On 28 Mar 2017, at 21:55, Burr Sutter <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Hardy Ferentschik <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I hate to break your heart, but just don't use xhyve.
> I know it is the "native" hypervisor on OS X, but imo is just not ready for 
> prime time.
> 
> 
> Well the cool kids like James Strachan and Kamesh Sampath are telling me that 
> xhyve is super awesome and I would be better looking, thinner and 10 years 
> younger if I just tried it :-)
>  
> If you want to have a stable environment use VirtualBox. I use VirtualBox
> for development and hardly xhyve. xhyve has a tendency to hang and it as you 
> noticed
> yourself handles hibernation really badly. Also, when you get into a bad 
> state,
> xhyve can literally force you to restart your notebook. Btw, have I mentioned 
> the
> "issues" around the fact that the xhyve driver needs to run as root, hence 
> creating
> files I cannot easily delete afterwards?
> 
> I do not even know what files to go delete...but I do see it misbehaving.
> 
>  
> 
> I have an Minishift instance running pretty much all the time and hibernate my
> machine as often as I like with hardly having any trouble.
> 
> What is so appealing with xhyve? Is it such a hassle to install and use 
> VirtualBox?
> 
> > CDK 2.1 could also handle the laptop sleep cycle pretty well (at least 4+
> > sleep/wake cycles) but I do not believe CDK 2.3 could as one sleep/wake
> > cycle could cause it to "eat all the CPU".
> 
> Both cases used to work for me afaicr.
> 
> CDK 2.2+ uses more CPU than before - I stuck with CDK 2.1 until Jan 2017 for 
> demos :-)
> 
> Now my demo volume (longer time spans between demos) is low enough that I can 
> afford to reset the demo on CDK 2.3+ for each presentation.
>  
> 
> > In my case, I always use the CDK 2.x with Virtual Box
> > and the Minishift CDK with Xyhve
> 
> Why are you not using VirtualBox for Minishift as well?
> 
> Just because :-)
>  
> 
> BTW, regarding the MSA example. Provisioned it just yesterday on latest 
> Minishift version
> and it worked ok.
> 
> It works...it is slower than it used to be and even with VirtualBox, it does 
> not survive as many sleep/wake cycles as it used to (CDK 2.1 days).
> 
>  
> 
> --Hardy
> 
> 
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