On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> -On [20000407 17:10], Lars Clausen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> It's very simple in fact.
>>> 
>>> gtk_init() is within a #if/#ifdef/#endif pair and thus if someone
>>> doesn't meet the conditionals requirement gdk_rgb_init() will be
>>> called, but there's no preceeding gtk_init() to base it all upon.
>>
>>That's true, but that happens only when you have neither Gnome or popt.
>>I though you said you compiled with Gnome?
> 
> Nope, I said I didn't use Gnome. =)

Guess it came out a bit confused, then.

> 
> That said, it's still strange that 0.84 supports just GTk+ and that any
> version after that would all of a sudden require the bloatware all those
> other packages impose on it.  It was functional without Gnome, popt and
> all that, it should remain that way, since it is still possible!

This was a bug.  It's intended to work without all the bloatware.  And I
hope the fix I just put in CVS does it.  Have a go. (Thanks to Asger
Alstrup Nielsen for pointing at the problem with a clue-by-four.)

> Just my take on it. =)
> 
>>> But I still get the gdk_imlib messages, so something is still fubared
>>> in that aspect.  I am working on that.
>>
>>I'll see if I can get gdk_pixbuf everywhere, then you can just use that:)
> 
> Then we effectively move all dependencies from imlib to gdk-pixbuf.
> Just be sure you do this because gdk-pixbuf is technically superior over
> imlib and not because some people on the Gnome list are very fed up with
> Rasterman.

I don't read gnome-list, but I'm still fed up with Rasterman:)  The only
thing that imlib has going for it is caching of images, which you could say
should be the applications responsibility.  gdk-pixbuf has proper alpha
handling, which is way cool!  Now if only PostScript would support alpha...

I'll let dia have both gdk-pixbuf and imlib for now, so people just need
one or the other.  Yay for choice!

-Lars

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