On Thursday, 10 October 2019 at 10:08:14 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 09:59:49AM +0100, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 11:12 -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: […] > Actually, std.functional is somewhat of a misnomer. It > mostly deals with higher-order functions, i.e., functions > that return functions, currying, that sort of thing. These > are part of functional programming, but there's more to > functional programming than that. I'd say std.range and > std.algorithm are another major part of functional-style > programming support in D, along with the purity system.
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I feel that it is best to leave functional programming to functional programming language, e.g. Haskell, Scheme, etc. rather than try to do functional programming in imperative languages, e.g. Java, C++, Rust, D.
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Note this is why I wrote "functional-style programming" w.r.t. D, rather than "functional programming". Clearly, what D has isn't "real" functional programming in the strict sense, but it does share similar characteristics when written in that style.

I did programming in Smalltalk for about 10 years. Smalltalk has all those things that are now called "functional-style programming" or even IMHO incorrectly "functional programming" that are about applying operations on collections. In Smalltalk these functions (like collect, map, reject, detect, inject, etc.) are simply called "collection iterators". They already exist in Smalltalk-80, which is called that way, because it was published in 1980. To verify this you can download the Smalltalk-80 "blue book" from here and do a text search on these function names: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/BlueBook/Bluebook.pdf

In those 10 years where I did Smalltalk development I met no one who called making use of those collection iterators functional programming. There are several books about Smalltalk who have some importance in CS, because Smalltalk was the first truly useable OO language afer Simula. I don't think the term functional programming is ever used there.

Calling collection iterators functional programming opened Pandoras box of mixing up things. I fear it is too late to explain to people that functional progeramming is what is done in Haskel and Lisp and related languages and nothing else.

Collection iterators carry some aspects of functional programming such as non-destructive programming as the result of applying a function on a call returns a new collection leaving the original collection unchanged, but that alone is not enogh for things to be called functional programming. It is merely simply making use of closures.


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