Don wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Yigal Chripun"<yigal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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A millennium ago, Europe was in the midst of the dark ages while all
scientific advances were made by Islamic scholars (know Algebra?),
and the
christian world went on holy crusades to fight the evil
"barbarians", now
a millennium later the wheel had turned and the Islamic world is in its
own dark-age (Iran is prime example of that) and the Islamic extremists
are calling for Jihad against the corrupt and evil heretics of the
west.
Non of that is present in Judaism.
I'm no theology expert, but from what I understand, the Islamic
concept of
Jihad really refers to a person's internal good-vs-evil struggle, not an
external struggle. The so-called "Muslims" that take Jihad to mean
actually
committing violence against other people are bastardizing thier own
religion
in the same way that some people bastardize Christianity into allegedly
being pro-"white power".
Not quite so. Jihad is one of the pillars of Islam, and has about 4
sub-categories one of which is _Jihad_by_sword_
here's a quote for example from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_of_Islamic_scholars_on_Jihad :
<quote>
Ibn Rushd, in his Muqaddimāt, divides Jihad into four kinds:
"Jihad by the heart; Jihad by the tongue; Jihad by the hand and
Jihad by the sword." He defines "Jihad by the tongue" as "to commend
good conduct and forbid the wrong, like the type of Jihad Allah (swt)
ordered us to fulfill against the hypocrites in His Words, “O Prophet!
Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites” (Qur'an
[Qur'an 9:73]). Thus, Seraj and Ahmad Hendricks have expressed a view
that Muhammad strove against the unbelievers by sword and against the
hypocrites by tongue
</quote>
the only link between Judaism to Christianity is that supposedly
Jesus was
Jewish.
Umm...Judaism and Christianity share an entire Bible. Of course,
Christianity adds another Bible (the "New Testament") but they equally
revere what they call the "Old Testament", which *is* the Jewish
Bible. As
part of that Bible, both religions contain The Ten Commandments, Moses,
Abraham (this particular part also being shared by Islam), Adam and Eve,
Noah's Ark, and probably some other things. I'm not sure where you
get the
idea that Jesus's religion is the only connection between Judaism and
Christianity.
Christianity has mostly redefined out of existence most of the Jewish
concepts if not all of them as they appear in the bible (the old
testament), and the new testament which overrides the old one defines
different, and contradicting new concepts.
Christians use different interpretations of the bible and the
christian faith basically broke backwards compatibility (to borrow a
software concept) with Judaism.
You seem to be assuming that modern Judaism is identical to
first-century Judaism. It clearly isn't. In particular, (1) the
destruction of the temple required significant "breaking of backward
compatibility" (not to anywhere near the same extent as Christianity, of
course), and (2) Orthodox Judaism recognizes the Talmud, which was
written down later than the New Testament.
Also Christianity retains the Tanakh(Old Testament) word-for-word and
regards it as authoritative. This put strict limits on the extent of
possible divergence.
Divergence of belief in the historical content of the text, yes. (I know
that Christianity has some divergence on whether the text is completely
and literally accurate in all aspects. I don't know whether there are
any young-earth creationists among non-Christian Jews, or anything like
that.)
However, there are a lot of commandments given down regarding what is
clean and unclean, and how to distinguish, and treatment for being
unclean in various ways. That is universally ignored. Doctors do better
at healing people than priests who follow the Torah exactly. In case of
an infestation of mold in your house, you are going to call someone who
specializes in that issue, and they're not going to follow the Torah,
even if they are the strictest of orthodox Jews. And I haven't seen any
Christian who felt compelled to avoid eating shellfish due to biblical
restrictions.
I don't know many ultra-Orthodox Jews; do any of you know a Jew who
would go to his priest regarding a rash before he would go to a doctor?
