On Saturday, 3 November 2012 at 13:17:46 UTC, bearophile wrote:
Erèbe:
Is there a point in the D roadmap where we will see "Okay, D
has enough features, let add some support to the language now"
? Because in my opinion D is for now just a language, a
awesome one yes, but not yet a good environnement for
developper.
You are missing some essential points. First of all features
are not just "done": they have corner cases to be fixed,
details to be improved, they need to be fully implemented, they
need to become efficient, bugs need to be removed, new needs
ask for new parts, there are new CPUs to support, new OSes, new
vector extensions added to CPUs, and so on. So in the end the
work for the core language developers never ends. Putting such
developers at work on tools is not a good idea, because then no
one does the essential work on the core language and they will
often be newbies regarding tools. So it becomes a lose-lose
situation. You can't stop the development of the core language
to develop tools, it causes a disaster. Usually you have to
build a language good enough that it attracts other people,
that are willing to work on tools and external modules :-)
Bye,
bearophile
Duly noted
On Saturday, 3 November 2012 at 15:25:07 UTC, Kiith-Sa wrote:
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/khmerwhgumluolifx...@forum.dlang.org#post-khmerwhgumluolifxtix:40forum.dlang.org
Thanks I will try !
On Saturday, 3 November 2012 at 16:06:11 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Yeah I use vim too, and I don't see any problem. But then
again, maybe
he's looking for syntax highlighting or that kind of stuff
which I don't
use.
I only use IDE at the beginning (for a new language or librairy)
because I found autocompletion helpful, after that I switch back
to vim.
But still. Oleg has a point -- IDE support and other such
things need to
be done by other people than the core developers, who need to
focus on
honing the language.
I find it strange that every so often people clamor for IDE
support,
syntax highlighting, debugger support, etc., yet nobody seems
to be
willing to contribute actual code. Don't like something about
the
current state of D development tools? Well then do something
about it.
The source code is there for a reason, and it's not just to
make people
feel all warm and fuzzy inside because now we can label
ourselves "open
source".
T
I was expecting the argument of "Not happy ? Do it yourself !". I
shall be glad to do it by myself, but I don't have the knowledge
(of the language, of the codebase) yet, and in regards with my
studies and the time I can dedicate to my side-projects, I will
not be started before 6 months or more.
My point is, there may are a lot of people with that knowledge in
the community, and a little impulsion from the root should be
helpful, because modern support will make D shine even brighter.
I will work toward this direction but it will take me time.
