On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:47:28 +0100 FG <h...@fgda.pl> wrote: > On 2013-02-20 11:32, Moritz Maxeiner wrote: > >> As for the X11 stuff, that's still more manual than I'd like when > >> it comes to X11. (Like I said, I've had *BIG* problems dealing > >> directly with X11 in the past.) But I may give it a try. I'm sure > >> it's improved since the nightmares I had with it back around > >> 2001/2002, but I still worry *how* much improved... Heck, I've > >> even had X11 problems as recently as Ubuntu 10. > >> > > > > Ah, okay, that's strange but I can understand that. The only > > problems I ever had with X was that I had to add an InputClass to > > the evdev file because evdev otherwise kept refusing to enable USB > > mice(s). > > > > Diving deeper into the OT... > Not strange at all. I had similar experiences around 2001 when I > bought a new immitation-of-ATI GFX card -- first there were no > drivers for it and, when they finally showed up (proprietary and > others), after weeks of configuring Xorg, I still couldn't make 3d > acceleration work and ended up without it for the next few years. Not > only Xorg are a problem. Even today I can't fire up the newest Ubuntu > install CDs without the screen going blank. That's how bad things are > with X and even framebuffer console. So I am not surprised hearing > about problems in this domain. >
Back with ~2001 Mandrake (and also the RedHat from the same era), I would have a fresh OS install, everything would work fine at first, but then after a few days, X11 would inexplicably just...not start. At all, not even manually. And for no apparent reason - I hadn't touched or messed with anything even related. Only thing I was able to figure out that actually worked, even with plenty of Googling, was yet another fresh reinstall. And then a few days later it would just happen again, totally out-of-the-blue. Between that and various other Linux issues at the time (For example, nothing comparable to today's apt-get existed), I ended up giving up on Linux entirely for the next ~7 years after. Most things are a lot better now, though. I was genuinely surprised/impressed at some of the improvements when I tried it again around Ubuntu ~9.