On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 17:59:50 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
Am 12.11.2013 17:10, schrieb eles:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 15:35:48 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 November 2013 at 15:27:36 UTC, bearophile wrote:
Ali Çehreli:
Sometimes I have feeling language researchers live in some strange
imaginary world and never actually check how their

Lambda the Ultimate and Javaland.

Well, in defence of Javaland, it is a consequence how easy it

I hesitated to add Javaland to the list, exactly because of that. I believe it was successful because, first, was designed *by a company* (just like C# is) and, second, because it was mostly like C++ but with increased verbosity (and that means less cryptic and easier to follow a diff).

I am not the first to consider that Java's verbosity is a good thing for a company. But, I confirm that: in my day-to-day job, we use C (and some C++). You would be amazed how much our guidelines lead us towards increased verbosity (names, annotations/comments, declarations).

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