On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 17:03:02 UTC, thedeemon wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 13:30:53 UTC, Luís Marques
wrote:
Whatever API / bindings you use, please don't expose
non-native UIs to users (drawn from scratch, either mimicking
the native UI or not). They never completely integrate with
the OS, subtly deviating from the native behaviour in ways
that range from awkward to infuriating, and are always playing
catch-up to the latest OS changes.
This is pure Mac talk.
In Windows the "native" UI elements are so scarce and
primitive, that most apps with decent UI end up making their
own. For example, one would assume that UI elements that can be
found in MS Office are native and can be used in other apps.
But they are not, Office used its own UI library and never
shared it with anyone. Ribbon implementation that comes with
recent Visual Studio is a completely different implementation
made by custom drawing, mimicking the look of Office. Actually,
there are even several different implementations, for different
languages.
Relying purely on native controls leads nowhere.
You are discussing the creation of custom controls, while I was
discussing the use of GUI libraries that recreate from scratch
things like:
- all controls, even the basic ones
- UI behaviours (e.g., scrolling, double click times, etc.),
badly mimicking the native system
- text rendering, unicode/localization processing, etc.
- integration with the native accessibility features
- event processing
Is possible to create custom controls while still playing
relatively nice with the native UI platform, and thus avoid
*some* of the problems mentioned, by inhering as much from the
platform as possible (text rendering, scrolling, accessibility,
etc.). For Apple platforms the advice is to avoid custom controls
when possible, which became easier in iOS when the native
controls became more skinnable. When custom controls are needed
they still integrate with the platform to a reasonable extent,
and thus while the *look* may be foreign, the *behaviours* tend
to feel native.
