Don wrote:
Miles wrote:
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:
Neither of the natural candidates, a^b and a**b, are an option, as they
are, respectively, already taken and ambiguous.

I think that a ** b can be used, is not ambiguous except for the
tokenizer of the language. It is the same difference you have with:

  a ++ b  -> identifier 'a', unary operator '++', identifier 'b' (not
parseable)

  a + + b  -> identifier 'a', binary operator '+', unary operator '+',
identifier 'b' (parseable)

I don't know anyone who writes ** to mean multiplication and
dereference, except when obfuscating code. People usually prefer adding
a whitespace between both operators, for obvious readability purposes.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to deprecate current usage of '**'
for the next release, and a few releases later, make '**' a new
operator. I doubt anyone would notice.

That doesn't work, because you still get new code being converted from C. It can't look the same, but behave differently.


Other examples:

  a-- - b
  a - --b

  a && b
  a & &b

You didn't respond to my assertion: even if you _could_ do it, why would you want to? ** sucks as an exponential operator. I dispute the contention that ** is a natural choice. It comes from the same language that brought you IF X .NE. 2


I've been translating a lot of FORTRAN code to D lately, and it's amazing what one can get used to reading. Even X.NE.2. :) The worst part is translating 1-based array indexing to base 0 (it should be a simple transformation, but those old FORTRAN coders have made damn sure that isn't always the case...), and unraveling horrible spaghetti code like this:

  100 if(abserr.eq.oflow) go to 115
      if(ier+ierro.eq.0) go to 110
      if(ierro.eq.3) abserr = abserr+correc
      if(ier.eq.0) ier = 3
      if(result.ne.0.0d+00.and.area.ne.0.0d+00) go to 105
      if(abserr.gt.errsum) go to 115
      if(area.eq.0.0d+00) go to 130
      go to 110
  105 if(abserr/dabs(result).gt.errsum/dabs(area)) go to 115

In the end I just had to admit defeat and define a few labels...

-Lars

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