On Saturday, 12 July 2014 at 16:38:35 UTC, Russel Winder via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Sat, 2014-07-12 at 15:41 +0000, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
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Sorry but I am tired of endless appeal to history / usage - by
this logic Java and PHP are very good languages full of
wisdom. And if someone thinks so we will have a hard time
agreeing about anything.
Why are you tired of this? History is extremely useful for
learning and
moving forward.
Because history is never as simple as those referring to it want
it to be. Connecting some facts and assuming tight relation
between those is annoyingly common fallacy.
Maybe PHP is an aberration designed to allow broken
websites, but many still like it and use it successfully.
This is exactly what I have meant - there is no point to refer to
historical language success when discussing technological issues.
Saying that some feature is fine simply because language that has
it is widely used is an approach that does not cope well with the
existence of PHP.
Everyone will be happy with this decision until it becomes a real
pain but it doesn't make it any better. Don't mix marketing and
language design.
So what is the inertia breaker to get Fortran, C and C++ folk
to use D?
I have no idea, but unless there are active user local groups
evangelizing D nothing will change. This email list is
important as a
central exchange mechanism, but it is useless for marketing and
evangelizing.
Evangelizing is a playing an alien game with starting
disadvantage. No way you can over-hype Google. I believe D should
stick to its strengths - being versatile, pragmatical and not
opinionated. Targeting not "folks" but senior developers who
chose languages for next big application and have already learned
their hard lessons of trusting the hype.
Whatever marketing strategy is considered, though, does not
really matter here. What I am asking here is to stop attacking
technological decisions from marketing standpoint. I hate it.
