On Monday, 8 September 2014 at 15:22:05 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Monday, 8 September 2014 at 15:09:27 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
It is not about D community but about yourself. Do _you_ want to be viewed as a valuable member of community? Do _you_ want to receive on topic responses to your threads?

I only want to receive a response on this thread from community members who are willing to share their patches! Your contribution to this thread is counter productive.

And I don't give a fuck what you expect because this thread encourages counter-productive and harmful attitude to the language. So yes, expect it to be ruined by off-topic flamewar, as well as any similar thread, this is quite intentional.

Ketmar is a noble example that I'd encourage others to follow. More people like him would bring D out of stagnation.

And I won't let you do that easily. Not in this NG at least.

If answer is yes, you will consider people expectation as much as a license.

No, I don't consider other people's disparage expectations on this topic. I consider the orignal author's choice of license. I am sure he considered the licensing-options and stands for his own choice. If he does not, then an explanation from the original author is in place.

And there are no NG rules that say I shouldn't write some off-topic bullshit in your threads. Also clearly the only reason why we don't casually walk around shooting people is because laws prohibit doing so, otherwise it is perfectly reasonable thing to do.

We add to the eco system. We don't detract from it.

Bullshit. Any kind of forking wastes most valuable resource open source world can possibly have - developer attention.

Uhm, no. I would not use D in it's current incarnation so I need to modify it. Ketmar and I are not DMD developers. We are currently digging into the code base. Modifying the parser is a good way to learn the AST. Maybe we one day will become DMD developers, but this attitude you and others are exposing in this thread and the bug-report-patch thread aint sexy. It's a turn off.

Yeah, sadly I don't buy this "I wanted to contribute but now I am so discouraged" attention whore crap. Andrei / Walter usually appreciate it being public spokeperson but I have no such concerns and don't care about a difference between a forum troll and retard.

Same as I don't really care what is your _personal_ go on D usage and what custom patches you have (or just pretend to have to troll real contributors). You are crossing the line when you come to the official NG and start telling people "hey guys it feels like a good day to screw this language a bit more". This is where I stop pretending to be a civilized person.

What you are doing is telling prospective contributors that this community is about cohesive military discipline. Totalitarian regimes tend to run into trouble. I most definitely will never join a cult that expose it as an ideal. I'm not one of your lieutenants. Sorry.

Exactly the kind of demagogue rhetorics referenced xkcd comic makes fun of. It is quite ironical that people tend to call least restricted environments totalitarian because it not only allows them to do things but also face the reaction of other people which is (surprisingly!) different from expected ones. Because if we actually had any sort of military discipline I'd had to comply to official "be nice to everyone" attitude. Fortunately I don't have to. Same as you don't have to respect my or Daniel opinion.

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