On Friday, 6 March 2015 at 13:22:47 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 6 March 2015 at 12:29:46 UTC, Chris wrote:
to!). Frankly speaking, I hate JS and wish there was a way to
get rid of it (please, don't try to convince me that JS is
somehow good - it isn't - and that there is jquery and blah
dee blah. Please don't.).
It isn't good, but once you figured out what to avoid, you can
use a subset of it pretty well. Like C++ and D ;^)
It feels weird to type "Object.create(null)" to get a
dictionary-like object, but it will probably be fixed in
ECMAScript 6?
worry about any platform specific quirks or pitfalls.
Something that is only a thin layer that is agnostic to the
logic, the data processing that goes on in the app.
Unfortunately, the only way to do this today is HTML5+JS (it's
the JS bit that annoys me).
Yeah, but I think if you only do the GUI (the View part of MVC)
in JS using shadow dom it should be quite ok. And nothing
should prevent one from generating the JS bindings from D to
JS/HTML5 from D code.
Using technologies (other than HTML5) that interface to native
widgets, is not maintainable, you're always one step behind.
I agree. The alternative is to develop only for a few markets
(e.g. iOS/Cocoa). People are also quite used to the common UI
paradigms used on the web by now, so "learnability" is not the
same as in the 80s/90s where regular users would be terribly
confused when encountering innovative UI components. Text books
on usability probably lags a bit behind there...
Except the browser only offers a 80s/90s view of the desktop.
No way of providing an immersive experience with all the UI
features the native platforms expose to their applications.
I lost count how many times I had to explain that the feature X,
that the customers like so much in a given native application, is
not possible in their new web based UI.
Last one was an upload progress bar with status with amount of
uploaded data for files dragged into the browser, working the
same way across all required browsers.
Qt et al might work in markets where there is little
competition (low volume narrow markets), but I have trouble
seeing a future for it without a major player backing it 100%
to gain market share.
I believe Google depends on HTML5 domination to keep
Apple/Microsoft from getting "too big".
They have Android for that.
ChromeOS might sell well in Amazon US, but I never saw one in my
travels around Europe, except for the ones at German Saturn shops
bundled with every type of promotion to try to get them out of
the shop, with decreasing prices every time I come by.
--
Paulo
