On 3/22/15 10:20 AM, "Marc =?UTF-8?B?U2Now7x0eiI=?= <schue...@gmx.net>"
wrote:
On Sunday, 15 March 2015 at 14:10:02 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote:
Here's the new version of my scope proposal:
http://wiki.dlang.org/User:Schuetzm/scope2
It's still missing real-life examples, a section on the
implementation, and a more formal specification, as well as a
discussion of backwards compatibility. But I thought I'd show what I
have, so that it can be discussed early on.
I hope it will be more digestible for Walter & Andrei. It's more or
less an extended version of DIP25, and avoids the need for most
explicit annotations.
BUMP
@Walter & Andrei: What is your opinion? Is it better than the last
proposal? Worse? Good enough?
Speaking for myself (though I suspect Walter is in a similar position)
I'm not sure when I'll have time to get to it. I'm to my head in stuff
that's important and urgent.
I need to get DConf submissions reviewed and published. (That should
happen later today - stay tuned!) What seems to be a trivial process for
anyone who hasn't done it turns out to be a ton of grind.
At work I'm working on reviewing a bunch of non-idiomatic D (rather
Java/Python/Go written in D) and refactor it into much shorter and more
efficient idiomatic D. That is also important and urgent; with badly
written D there's little visible advantage to D at large and a lot of
incentive to fall back on the more familiar languages. That spills into
documentation work, and recent discussions between Walter and me led to
him (and thankfully others) being preoccupied with improving the
documentation.
As odd as it sounds, better documentation for what we have is more
"important * urgent" cross-product than exploration of language
improvements.
Then I also need to get diverted into PR work like improving byLine.
Something that has not really been internalized by folks here is that
statistically EVERYBODY is on StackOverflow and NOBODY is on
forum.dlang.org. Clearly the few folks in this forum are quite
influential in the technical direction of the language, but the
long-term pull (upwards or downward) of people influenced by articles
like
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28922323/improving-line-wise-i-o-operations-in-d/29153508
can turn things radically better (or respectively worse). On that page
there is one relevant piece of information - the link to the PR I
created. It has just one vote, which pretty much means that next to
nobody in this forum bothered to muster even that level of participation.
I can't express how much relief there is that Adam's weekly newsletter
and Martin's work on the release mean that essentially I can take such
matters off my mind.
Above all, my main preoccupation is to convert the energy going in
incessant conversations in this forum on a variety of topics, from
Brownian motion into directed propelling force.
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A good trait of a graduate student is being able to act creatively on
little advisor input. Academic advisors at top universities are almost
always exceptionally good in their field; incredibly troves of insight
and information. However, they are also immensely - and proverbially -
busy which means they have little time to dedicate to any particular
tidbit of information. For graduate students, that means if a particular
matter reached the consciousness level of the adviser, it should
definitely be looked into without further prodding. I sometimes wish D's
leadership were in that position - if there is agreement some matter is
important, it would be naturally looked into without a need to insist on
it or debate it at nauseam.
Your proposal? I want to look into it. I must look into it, and it's a
requirement that I look into it in order for it to make it into D. But I
cannot promise when for as long as I am unable to delegate even the most
trivial matters.
Andrei
