On Wednesday, 27 May 2015 at 10:01:35 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 May 2015 at 17:13:18 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:07:08 +0000, Chris wrote:
With Go I have the sinking feeling that it won't be able to
contend with
C++ - or D for that matter. It took off due to Google and a
fool-proof,
easy-to-use infrastructure. But it is way too limited and
limiting to be
useful for more sophisticated tasks. Go's core devs even say
that they
wanted it to be an easy-to-use, middle-of-the-road language
for those
who work in their code mines, focusing on a high output, and
it doesn't
matter, if you have to write the same function or for-loop
with slight
modifications over and over and over again.
and it really doesn't matter... for Rob Pike. he also don't
like shared
libraries and other bells and whistles. sometimes he is right,
but
sometimes he is too radical.
Go is a "java from google", aimed to raise a bunch of easily
replaceable
programmers.
Exactly. As such it cannot be a serious contender as regards
quality and versatility. There will be loads of Go code around,
millions of for-loops on hundreds of thousands of servers, but
I don't think it will go any further. Languages like D that are
flexible and take useful concepts on board are much better
suited for the programming challenges of the future (e.g.
sophisticated high speed data processing algorithms).
The thing is that Java and Python (and soon Go?) hit a brick
wall sooner or later. Huge efforts are made to improve speed,
flexibility and whatnot (JIT, Cython etc). But the real problem
lies in rigid and narrow minded design decisions taken more
than a decade ago. This is why it's still back to C and C++ for
serious stuff.[1]
[1] For more than a decade I've been hearing that with Java
8.x/9.x/10.x this or that issue will be fixed, or that Python
will soon have native performance. It never happens and it
never will. It's time to move on. Take the D train. :-)
Only when I can sell D to customers that put money into this kind
of stuff
http://www.azulsystems.com/press-2014/azul-systems-and-orc-partner-to-enable-smarter-high-performance-trading
http://chronicle.software/products/koloboke-collections/
http://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/next-wave-enterprise-performance-java-power-systems-nvidia-gpus/
Ecosystems count more than language features.
--
Paulo
