On 2009-10-12 11:45:55 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org> said:

Occasionally people here ask for ways in which they can help D. One thing that would be extremely helpful at this point would be to help defining and implementing D's new concurrency API. Unfortunately, Bartosz has declined to contribute. That leaves Walter, Sean, Don, and participants to this group to do it.

So Bartosz quit? Not that much surprising given the all too many missing building blocks.

I recently realized that you can easily implement unique in a library. It can work pretty much the same as auto_ptr in C++. But to guaranty uniqueness you need either to rely on convention (as in C++), or add support for lent to the compiler.

I know we discussed at length how lent could be implemented, we called it 'scope' and 'escape analysis' at the time and the conclusion you (and Walter I guess) came with was that it was too much for D2.

Well, without lent (and thus without unique), safe message passing systems across threads will be limited to immutable data, or copied data, which not at all useful in many situations.

Now if you want a good concurrency API relying on convention, then that's great: there are plenty of examples to follow out there. But if you want it to be both safe (enforced) and useful at the same time, that's a mission impossible with the current set of tools available from the compiler.

That's why I'm not surprised Bartosz declined to implement it.

(And sorry if I sound pessimistic.)


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