On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
On 23/09/2015 22:02, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
IDE is not just a nice interface to write code. It's a way to
organize
files, AST based file browsing, github integration, and - the
most
important aspect for me - is the *integrated debugging
support*. I'll
never use dmd from command line and the lack of IDE support
would be
definitely a stopper for me.
While it is easy to agree with you, I don't think a lack of
IDE or even
libraries is something one should expect to be addressed by
the language
developer. Those are issues one can find solutions to if D is
suitable
and different people have different taste. Go and Rust have
been in the
same boat. This is not a show stopper...
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that
puts IDE support as part of its development effort, will have a
big competitive advantage.
D is not on the same boat as Rust here. The Rust team is
investing much more in toolchain support (beyond the compiler
and basic tools). For example, they contracted an external
developer to help them with debugger issues
(https://michaelwoerister.github.io/2014/02/28/mozilla-contract.html). And more than that, they are also now effecting plans to improve their tools (or create new ones) to support IDE functionality ( https://github.com/nrc/rfcs/blob/2410d2ce1682813ea79debbf13a99868e6a6bd8a/text/0000-ide.md )
Out of curiosity, how much money would be needed to do something
similar for D ? Not that I can help for now, but it's good to
understand the magnitude of things.
