On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:13:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros
wrote:
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that
puts IDE support as part of its development effort, will have
a big competitive advantage.
Indeed, when you are production ready having a top notch IDE
becomes a big competitive advantage! I don't know if an IDE
attracts people who work on compilers/debuggers though...
and basic tools). For example, they contracted an external
developer to help them with debugger issues
Sure, excellent debugging support (lldb/gdb) is important.
Having followed this forum for 2 or 3 years now, I doubt whether
an IDE would attract people at this stage. If we had a
full-fledged IDE, there would be other concerns (or excuses). D
scares people away. It's too raw, too bare bones, everything is
still moving like hot lava, and maybe people are intimidated by
it, because they feel they might be considered bad programmers,
if they don't know the ins and outs of it.
Yesterday someone said too me "You must know D inside out by
now!" I replied "I know it well enough to know that I don't know
it well enough." There's no end to D in terms of knowledge, in
terms of learning about programming, and this scares people away.
They prefer a set menu, they want rules and strict guidelines.
They want to feel comfortable and secure in what they're doing.
Java, C# and Go cater for this. D doesn't, and that's why it has
no traction. D openly shows what's going on under the hood, not
just a nice facade. But nobody really wants to see that. The
frequent demands for an IDE are a symptom of this.
