On Saturday, 9 January 2016 at 10:13:01 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Saturday, 9 January 2016 at 04:24:05 UTC, Joakim wrote:
How is it "political?" My prediction is entirely geared
around hardware and software realities.
No, businesses don't want P2P, client-server is the ultimate
dongle...
I don't think businesses care what technical architecture they're
using. Many have stayed away from the cloud, because they're
understandably worried about putting their confidential data on
somebody else's servers.
Not sure exactly what you mean by "ultimate dongle," but if you
mean it's just plug-and-play, I'd say it's far away from that,
though certainly better in that regard than maintaining your own
software in-house.
_are_ very useful. Having an online map with my GPS location
with me at all times, supplemented with photos and other info
about all the local restaurants and stores nearby is a killer
app. Perhaps you have not tried Google Maps, but it is really
worth the price of a smartphone, not to mention the camera and
all the other stuff you get.
Feature phones have camera, video, facebookapp, opera mini,
bluetooth, p2p filesharing over bluetooth...
They may have some of those, but they're not very usable on a
tiny, low-res screen.
Yes, maps are nice, but I only need it once every 2 months, so
what I do is print one out. I grew up in Oslo, so I know the
areas. In fact tourists frequently ask for direction still and
norwegians too, whether they have flat battery or not. It is
easier to do planning on a big paper map too. Google map lacks
accuracy, paths, roadblocks/snow coditions...
I've used it in a couple different countries, it's surpringly
good. Not 100% accurate, but no map is.
Feature phones will die when smartphones become
small/robust/long battery life.
They're already dying now, feature phone sales have been dropping
for years, as smartphones take over that market:
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2996817
That is not true for the web. I was underimpressed with the
web when it was introduced. Today I am impressed. It is
dominating the desktop severely.
What changed?
Webapps are displacing desktop apps.
So nothing important changed about the web technology itself,
you're just impressed by its success?
Heh, I think micropayments will be the killer business model
for p2p. :) I wonder if it can ever really be done for the
web, considering all the security issues in the web stack.
That's another place where the complexity of the web stack
kills it, all the security holes that pop up.
The problem is getting people to sign up for it.
Nah, that's no problem at all, as lots of people would like to
use it. The problem is making it really easy to use and secure,
like most new tech.
Has the web fixed all its vulnerabilities? Of course not, so
that's hardly a deal-breaker. p2p would be easier to secure.
?
I guess you're referring to the "easier to secure" bit? If
you're simply sending structured messages with actual user-viewed
data back and forth over p2p, that's much easier to secure than a
remotely-executed programming language (javascript) and several
other formatting languages thrown in
(HTML/CSS/XML/dumb-web-API-of-the-day), as the web stack
undertakes.
P2p is not inherently easier than client-server, only if done
simply, like the way I described.
You mention open formats several times, but none of that has
anything to do with open source, which was a non-factor in the
web browser's rise.
Are you kidding? Mosaic was critical to the raise of the web.
The OSS Mosaic prototype was very important in spreading the idea
in the beginning. But it had almost no impact on the subsequent
_rise_ through regular users, which all happened when they left
university to form Netscape. If they hadn't built a company to
drive it, it would have gone nowhere, just as we see many OSS
projects doing today.
wrong with that in principle, in fact, the web would've likely
gone nowhere if Netscape hadn't formed and driven it.
I disagree.
But something like Flash would have been in a stronger position.
No, you'd still have been going online through proprietary
networks like Prodigy, CompuServe, AOL, or The Microsoft Network:
:)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSN_Dial-up#The_Microsoft_Network
There would have been no web and no Flash on top of it without
Netscape.
