Don wrote:
Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:
Don wrote:
Jason House wrote:
Don Wrote:

Leandro Lucarella wrote:
Justin Johansson, el 30 de octubre a las 08:42 me escribiste:
Actually, I think I like that better than 'traits'.

-Lars
I'm in agreement with whoever suggested 'meta' or just about anything else except 'traits'. 'meta', whilst perhaps an overloaded keyword, is still much more user-friendly. Whenever I see 'traits' I get the feeling I need a Ph.D. to understand what it's about. For some reason,
I don't know why, 'meta' has an aire of karma about it.
"compiler"? That could open the door to other types of access to compiler
internals, AST, etc.
Yup. I think the 'magic namespace' approach is a simple, clean way to incorporate reflection. It could be like Object and TypeInfo, implicitly available in every module and tightly coupled to the compiler, but can be viewed by the user as if it were just a module. It'd be particularly interesting if some of the functions _were_ actually implemented in library code, when possible.

What about going one step further? You could require an import statement to use traits. For example, import traits=std.traits could reproduce your earlier suggestion, but gives added flexibility to the programmer. It also eliminates a keyword.

It's too fundamental for that. You can't use template constraints without it.
BTW, 'scope' is another possible magic namespace.

scope.compiles(XXX) -- true if XXX compiles in the current scope.

More generally, scope.YYY() would provide metaprogramming information about the property YYY of the current scope.

Do you mean in addition to or instead of the already proposed traits/meta/compiler namespace?

It's another namespace suggestion. Just brainstorming.

If it's just about avoiding new keywords I think this feature is fundamental enough to deserve its own keyword, and all of the above are more descriptive than 'scope'.

Is this "magic namespace" proposal technically difficult to implement in the compiler?

See for yourself. For example, the patch below (against svn 234) allows '__traits' as the magic namespace. The existing __traits stuff continues to compile. <g>

And BTW, to allow 'meta' as another synonym for the same magic namespace, add this line to lexer.c, line 2960.

    {   "__traits",   TOKtraits       },
+    {  "meta",               TOKtraits       },
    {   "__overloadset", TOKoverloadset       },

(Hmm. Didn't know __overloadset was a keyword. The things you find...)

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