On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:55:56 +0000, Benny wrote:

> On Wednesday, 31 January 2018 at 10:35:06 UTC, Benny wrote:
>> Let me say this again
> 
> *uch* Never mind this rant. I am just fed up with the issues. I will not
> post anymore as its just a wast of time for everybody involved.

I wouldn't call it a waste of time. I've been noting problems people run 
into consistently, though I haven't done anything about any of them yet.

And that's the thing, when someone says either do it yourself or pay 
someone, it's because that is often the only way to get something done in 
a small volunteer organization (not just programming projects). I came to 
D because it will help me with a couple of projects I wanted to do; if I 
stop to work on something else, I'm stopping what I wanted to do. So most 
of the time, I'm going to prioritize my problems.

Some people have made the compiler and/or tooling their projects; others 
will put a hold on what they're doing to fix small issues. Not many will 
stop working on their stuff to do major things for someone else. (Maybe 
some sort of community challenge could help(?))

When money is spent, it tends to go to compiler/language development 
because that helps everybody; if only 60% of people use some tool, only 
60% of people benefit from that work. There comes a time when the ROI is 
worth it, but those spending money don't seem to think we're there yet.

Anyway, mostly because of your recent posts I'm going to take a look at 
DlangIDE. If we can package a cross-platform IDE+compiler+dub as a single 
download and you're ready to go, that might make it easier to give D a 
try, even if most people would later set up something else; at least you'd 
only deal with the problems after you've decided it's worth it.

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