On 20/08/2010 22:37, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:04:41 +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
What are these Java programs for the desktop that run fast? I haven't
encountered any, but maybe that's just because I didn't try them all
out. Eclipse takes at least 20 seconds to load on startup on my quad
core, that's not very fast. On the other hand, CodeBlocks which is
coded in C++ and has a few dozen plugins installed runs in an
instant.
Now that's a fair comparison! "Crysis runs so slowly but a hello world
written in Go is SO fast. This must prove that Go is much faster than
C+ +!"
I think CodeBlocks is one of the most lightweight IDEs out there. Does
it even have full semantic autocompletion? Eclipse, on the other hand,
comes with almost everything you can imagine. If you turn off the
syntax check, Eclipse works just as fast as any native application on
a modern desktop.
I've tried eclipse with the fancy stuff off, and it's still slower than
C::B or PN2 for me.
All these comments about Eclipse takes this time to load, or Eclipse is
slow when used, etc., are really meaningless unless you tell us
something about what actual plugins and features are installed and used.
Unlike CodeBlocks which is "a free C++ IDE", Eclipse proper is the
Eclipse Platform, which is a platform (duh) and doesn't do anything
useful by itself. Particularly since there is not even a standard/single
"Eclipse" download: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ , unlike
Codeblocks. The days were JDT would be the main thing 95% of Eclipse
users would use are long gone.
So are you using JDT, CDT, Descent, something else? If JDT, do you have
extra tools, like the J2EE Web Tools? (these add massive bloat) What
about source control plugins, or plugins not provided by the Eclipse
Foundation, etc? All of these are a wildcard that can affect
performance. For example, I definitely note that sometimes my workspace
chokes when I do certain SVN or file related operations (with Subclipse
btw, not Subversive).
I also noted, when Eclipse 3.6 came out, some sluggishness when working
with JDT, even when just typing code (in this case it was very subtle,
almost imperceptible, but I still felt it and it was quite annoying). I
suspected not JDT, but Mylyn, so I uninstalled it, and now things are
back to normal. (there might be a fix or workaround for that issue in
Mylyn, but since I don't use it, I didn't bother)
I would definitely be quite annoying if Eclipse was not responsive for
the vast majority of coding tasks.
As for startup time, I hardly care anything about that :
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