Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:59:21 +0100, Bruno Medeiros wrote:

> I don't mean to offend anyone, but if you [sic] CS degree (at least
> for the last decade or so), doesn't teach about points 1 and 2 above as
> part of core curricula, then it's a pretty crappy CS degree. The same is
> probably also true for other related degrees (*-engineering, maths), at
> least with regards to point 1.

This reminds me of

> That is funny. Now and then you and Andrei talk so confidently about Go,
> C#, Haskell and other D competitors, without having written more than a
> couple of lines in those languages.

Walter also talks so confidently about CS degrees, without having earned 
one. The experiences probably stem from his caltech times with the smelly 
bearded hippie unix guys who wrote bubble sorts in some deprecated 
assembler dialect.

This is becoming a real problem. I gave an example of Scala fairly 
recently. I've given examples of code in other languages earlier. So has 
bearophile. I can't ever assume that you guys study these basics. The 
discussion stays at this level. It takes enormous amount of effort to 
teach simple concepts. How many knows now what a monad is? It was 
discussed again recently.

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