On 8/26/2011 10:29 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:44:16 +0300, Brad Roberts <bra...@puremagic.com> wrote: > >> I don't think the mailing list software is what's at fault. There's >> _tons_ of people who use it, myself included obviously. If it was a >> general problem with the list software (mailman, probably the most >> popular list management software out there), it'd be a lot more >> prevelant. Try again. > > Did you even read my explanation? > > There is no room for doubt that the mailing list is replacing message IDs. > The message ID has "mailman" and > "puremagic.com" in it, for crying out loud. > > If you're so damn confident that Mailman is absolutely perfect and cannot be > flawed, have you considered that it might > be a problem with how you've set it up?
Way to get unnecessarily emotional.. relax a little. I did read your mail. I was reacting to your over generalization that the list software is "just a shoddy frontend to the nntp server" and that people should stop using it. I never claimed it couldn't be buggy. The bug report that Jerome dug up is interesting, and also helps further my point, it's not a general problem with all messages between the nntp and smtp gateways. It seems to require cross-posting. That would match better with the frequency of occurrence of the problem, both are fairly rare. Looks like they've been discussing options for a fix, though not terribly actively. Once it's fixed, and released in an update shipped with ubuntu, I'll get it installed. There's another workaround, if the report is accurate, don't cross-post to multiple newsgroups. Not a lot of reason to do so with the D groups.