On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 09:01:21 +0300, Brad Roberts <bra...@puremagic.com>
wrote:
On 8/26/2011 10:29 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:44:16 +0300, Brad Roberts <bra...@puremagic.com>
wrote:
I don't think the mailing list software is what's at fault. There's
_tons_ of people who use it, myself included obviously. If it was a
general problem with the list software (mailman, probably the most
popular list management software out there), it'd be a lot more
prevelant. Try again.
Did you even read my explanation?
There is no room for doubt that the mailing list is replacing message
IDs. The message ID has "mailman" and
"puremagic.com" in it, for crying out loud.
If you're so damn confident that Mailman is absolutely perfect and
cannot be flawed, have you considered that it might
be a problem with how you've set it up?
Way to get unnecessarily emotional.. relax a little.
I did read your mail. I was reacting to your over generalization that
the list software is "just a shoddy frontend to
the nntp server" and that people should stop using it. I never claimed
it couldn't be buggy.
I advised Andrej to stop using it if the issue was bothering him. I did
not imply that everyone should stop using it. Such conversion issues are
nearly unavoidable with gateways between different message
formats/protocols, so I wasn't criticizing Mailman or this particular
set-up, but the idea in general. "Try again." came off as arrogant
dismissal to me. I may have over-reacted.
The bug report that Jerome dug up is interesting, and also helps further
my point, it's not a general problem with all
messages between the nntp and smtp gateways. It seems to require
cross-posting. That would match better with the
frequency of occurrence of the problem, both are fairly rare.
Was your message cross-posted? Because its Message-ID is
<mailman.2541.1314424921.14074.digitalmar...@puremagic.com>. List
subscribers probably got a message with a different Message-ID (the real
one).
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Best regards,
Vladimir mailto:vladi...@thecybershadow.net
