Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > On 9/17/11 4:17 CDT, Xavier wrote: >> Anyway, you can talk until you are blue in the face, but you can't >> convince me that D and C++ aren't in the same category (as far as >> language design goes). You can call C++ a POS, but then, to me, that >> means that at best, D is just a better POS. But not to end this post >> on a bad note/word, I admire C++ a little bit. I certainly don't >> hate it. I can deal with it's shortcomings for now, so I could >> probably deal with D's also, but if I was thinking about jumping >> ship, I'd be swimming toward an island and not another ship. > > One's favorite language
Nuh uh.. don't you even start that (or do it, but leave me out of it). > has most to do with a handful of fundamental > dimensions (dominant paradigm(s), approach to typing, look and feel, > regard to efficiency, connection to problem domain vs. machine, and a > few more). Dude, I think you your "fundamental" "sword", carefully. For instance, I am not likely to entertain, that kind of crap. I'd go on with the absurdity, and maybe want to (don't count on it, audience), but I don't want to maybe. > > A coworker of mine, for example, doesn't mind a speed penalty of 2-5x, OK, you are trying to "fish" me. Why?? > > likes modeling power and semantic cleanliness, and is okay with some > amount of code duplication. His favorite language is OCaml, and I'd > probably choose the same if I had the same preferences. > > For those who want at the same time like low-level access, modeling > power, generic programming, and efficiency, OCaml wouldn't rank high > in the list of preferences, and there wouldn't be many games in town. > In your metaphor, I'm not sorry for missing your interjecting "point", at al, FYI. And don't tell me what "my metaphor is/was", because you will only annoy me more. > swimming from a ship to an island would entail It was my thought, so get the fuck out of it. OK? [snippage} I painted on the wall and you want to know what it means? (Don't dare me Andrei, to TELL YOU THE TRUTH!). :P