On 2011-10-17 04:18, Ary Manzana wrote:
On 10/16/11 11:02 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Brad and I were talking about some D code that needed openssl support,
when we ran into the same old problem:
No D files corresponding to the openssl C .h files.
It's not that these are a big problem to create, it's just that they are
not done, and it tends to turn off people from using D. D is binary API
compatible with C, but only with a corresponding D import file. This,
out of the box, makes D *harder* to use than C.
Lots of people roll their own, but that work is hard to find and
haphazard.
This problem keeps coming up again and again.
So I propose creating, on github.com/D-Programming-Language, a new
repository called CAPI.
So you would put every interface to every possible C code there?
In Ruby if you want to have very efficient code you'd implement it as C
extensions. For that, you create wrappers in Ruby for C. Now, big part
of the standard library has extensions for the most needed things.
Everything else, like bindings to an efficient xml parser, are made by
different people that public them as gems. Having a public gem
repository it's really easy to find bindings for whatever you want. They
don't need to be part of the standard library. And it wouldn't make
sense, having so much functionality out there available as C code.
So I'd suggest having D headers for the most common things in phobos and
focusing on a tool like rubygems. It would give such a big boost to the
language.
I also can't imagine how that big repository would work. You'd copy the
remote file locally? What if that file gets fixes? You'd copy it again?
Or maybe you'd git checkout everything from that repository locally and
synchronize it from time to time, with the chance of breaking existing
code...
Having "gems" and versioning them should make all these problems
disappear. Maybe there is an openssl header in D. The problem is that
there might be many, and they don't know each other, and google is a
maze to find such things.
Already working on a package manager for D:
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orbit/wiki/Orbit-Package-Manager-for-D
https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/orbit/
--
/Jacob Carlborg
