On 12/2/2011 2:15 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:15:55 -0800, Walter Bright <newshou...@digitalmars.com>
wrote:
On 12/2/2011 11:29 AM, Gour wrote:
Moreover, developing something from the scratch woudl require enormous
amount of time in comparison with *just* providing higher-level D-ish
API for some of the already available GUI toolkit.
Developing a D GUI from scratch is way beyond our reach at the moment. People
have spent enormous efforts developing GUI libraries for other platforms,
there's no good reason for not leveraging their efforts.
I absolutely agree. However, I don't thank that we should exclude the
possibility of building a scratch library either.
At some point, a decision has to be made.
Consider that existing successful GUI libraries have had *enormous* resources
poured into them. That just is not possible in the D community right now. And
even if it were, do we really want to wait 5 years for it to be built?
Of course, if someone still wants to develop a D GUI from scratch, nobody is
going to stop them.
It's not just the code involved. It's the tutorials, web sites, manuals,
support, etc., that would have to be reinvented. By developing a D interface
to an existing one, none of that has to be developed.
This is too true. But if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. You could say
the same thing about compilers, but that didn't stop you ... :-)
Frankly, I think a compiler is much easier to build.
My intention is not to draw away any devs who could potentially work on
DMD/Phobos, in fact I want them working hard on those because without them any
work I do is pointless, and in some cases impossible (showstopper bugs and ICE's
are rather annoying like that). I suspect that it'll be a case of "me, myself,
and I" working on a native UI for D for quite some time. But at the same time, I
want to continue to have conversations with the community at large, probably
mostly about design and whatnot. If there are people who really want to help I
won't turn them away, but I'll avoid actively recruiting to make sure that
DMD/Phobos gets first pick, as they should. Sound good?
That's fine if you want to do that.
