On Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:37:12 Manu wrote: > On 12 May 2012 12:26, Timon Gehr <timon.g...@gmx.ch> wrote: > > On 05/12/2012 10:13 AM, Manu wrote: > >> On 11 May 2012 21:28, Mehrdad <wfunct...@hotmail.com > >> > >> <mailto:wfunct...@hotmail.com>**> wrote: > >> Yes, I agree, but consider that D users should NOT have to work with > >> pointers to do something so basic > >> > >> I'd like to think this were true, but the fact that 'ref' barely works > >> makes this almost immediately false when trying to write any non-trivial > >> program. > > > > It depends on the coding style. > > If the distinction is whether one likes to have data structures in their > code or not, I reckon there's a reasonably large user base in the former? :) > Once you use 'struct' you can't avoid pointers, given that ref just doesn't > work in many (perhaps most) situations.
Since structs are generally value types, it's extremely common to just pass them by value - so no refs or pointers are involved. I _rarely_ need pointers for structs, and I don't need ref for them all that often either. And aside from the need to duplicate functions which take const ref so that they work with rvalues, I don't know what about ref you could think doesn't work. - Jonathan M Davis