On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:52:05 -0400 "Steven Schveighoffer" <schvei...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > There is a master volume control. It has two volumes, on and off, and > it's called the silent switch ;) >
Calling that a master volume control is a stretch. > >> They aren't? They make complete sense to me. You even admit that > >> it makes sense to have find my iphone play its alerts as loud as > >> possible. > > > > No, only the "find iPhone" one. The iPhone has no fucking idea what > > environment I'm in. I *definitely* don't want it screeching "PAY > > ATTENTION TO MEEEE!!!!" indiscriminately whenever it damn well feels > > like it. > > When does it do that? > I thought you were just saying that the iPhone plays it's alerts as loud as possible? > > I just discovered through testing that timer has the same feature as > alarm. I find that incorrect. If I have the silent switch enabled, > the timer should just vibrate. > > In fact, I don't think there's a way to make the timer "just vibrate" > in any way. That's counter-intuitive and I will agree with you on > that one. > Yea, see there's just too much "surprise" involved, IMO. > I have seen strange things there, sometimes a photo/video comes in > rotated (I see it pass by the Windows photo import preview), but then > when I look at the photo in Explorer, it's correctly rotated. > I'm looking at the photos on my iPhone through Explorer right now and aside from the screenshots, the majority of them are either sideways or upside-down. The bizarre thing is, when I look at them through "Photos" on the device itself, it actually shows them all correctly. Which means that the device *knows* how they're supposed to be but doesn't bother to actually save them correctly. > I have not seen it show photos or videos incorrectly rotated once > downloaded. > I just copied all of them to my local machine, and they're still rotated wrong. Makes sense though, I wouldn't expect (or want) a file copy to affect content. > > Hehe, they have something like that, the photo icon on the lock screen > slides up to reveal the photo app. Yeah, it's not a hardware button, > but it does sound similar. > Doesn't protect the lens though, and it doesn't provide a physical button which would obviate the need to hijack the volume button. (It *is* at least a little better than not being able to access the camera from the lock screen at all.) I can't even tell you how many times I've accidentally gone back to the home screen when trying to take a picture. But I'll at least grant that *that* error was due to me being accustomed to my Zire71 (which, when slid open, has the "shutter" button exactly where the iPhone's home button is). > I have to say, this is one of the better improvements, especially with > those of us who have kids. > Yea, one-size-fits-all design :/ That said, I do like to use "kids" as an argument for having an OS-level "disable software eject" option for optical drives. ;) "Ok, I'll just leave that to burn..." Walk away. It finishes and ejects. Kid waddles by. "Ohh, a pretty shiny object! Should I eat it or flush it?" > > > > It didn't have an accelerometer (this *was* a decade ago, after > > all) so it couldn't determine the current "tilt" and auto-rotate > > photos accordingly (like the iPhone *should* have been able to do), > > but it had an easy built-in "rotate photo" feature that even > > iPhone's built-ins won't do (at least not in any realistically > > discoverable way). > > While viewing a photo, tap the screen to bring up the controls. Click > "Edit" (upper right corner), then you can rotate the photo. Don't > think you can do the same with a video. > > Don't think I agree that an Edit button on the main photo viewing > screen is not realistically discoverable. > I don't see any rotate there: http://semitwist.com/download/img/shots/IMG_0859.PNG I just see the "Back" button then...umm "Do a Magic Trick?" (WTF?), then I'm guessing maybe "Anti-Red-Eye", and...ok, I'm pretty sure that last one's crop, I remember seeing it in one or two image editing programs. > I will say though, like any UI, you have to get used to the mechanisms > that are standard. One of the things that I didn't know for a while > is how to get controls to come up. Generally that's a single tap in > the middle of the screen. If you didn't know that, it would be > difficult to discover. > Android has an actual button for "Settings". Much easier to discover (despite not actually saying "settings" - or anything at all, really). And easier to use since it usually brings up a list of real words unlike the contrived hieroglyphs used throughout most of Android and iOS. Or...at least the older Androids did. The damn newer ones replaced the few buttons it used to have with on-screen touch abominations. At least, for the buttons they didn't eliminate outright in their quest to clone the iPhone misfeature-for-misfeature. The settings button might have been one of the ones they killed off entirely, I don't remember offhand. > >> So no, I'm not a MAC person, I'm a Unix/Linux person. But Mac > >> seems to have done Unix better than Linux :) > > > > That was never my impression with macs. For example, I'll take even > > a mediocre linux GUI over Finder/etc any day. I don't understand why > > mac...*users*...inevitably have such trouble with the idea that > > someone could actually dislike it when it's (apperently) so > > objectively wonderful. > > Finder could be better, but Nautilus sucks. I'd rather use command > line than Nautilus. And actually, I did :) > I agree Nautilus sucks (and back in the day, it was bloated as hell, too). Best one I've found on Linux is Dolphin, and I'm not real big on that either. Out of all of them, Finder is easily still my least favorite though. I actually *liked* one of the views it had (the multi-column one) until I actually started using it firsthand. > However, I think Finder is only usable once you force it to show you > all hidden files. It pisses me off royally when an OS decides I > don't know enough to allow me to see hidden files. > Yea, "Show hidden files" is one of the first things I do when I install a new OS. And "Show my f*** extensions" on windows. > >> It was an example. But it was one that I noticed right away coming > >> from Ubuntu with Unity. Unity tries to be very MAC-like, > > > > That's why switched to Debian for my linux stuff instead of > > upgrading to the newer Ubuntus, and also why I'm not moving to > > Gnome 3. Too much Apple-envy for my tastes. > > For my VMWare image for work, I chose Linux Mint with the default > GUI, and it works pretty well. I like it better than Unity. > I don't know what Mint uses, but I always thought Unity was a bit of a misstep for Canonical. It's like Canonical pulling a "Metro". > >> If I had to summarize why I like MacOS better than windows -- the > >> GUI is a complete GUI, and as good as Windows (unlike Linux), > > > > See I disagree with that. I like XP's GUI (with luna disabled), but > > I hate having to use OSX GUIs and OSX-alike GUIs (such as Win7). > > Linux GUIs are definitely clunky, but when they're not aping Mac or > > iOS then I can at least get by with them. > > You may misunderstand when I say *complete* GUI, I mean you can do > everything with the GUI, and everything is seamless. There is no run > "system preferences" for some settings, and "Compiz settings" for > others, like in Ubuntu. Ok, yea, Linux has always been weak in that regard. > Same as Windows, one place to find everything -- control panel. > Well, sort of... :/ > The style may not fit your tastes, and I can't really argue that > point -- it's your taste that matters to you, not mine. But my point > is, it is *functional* and can do everything I need it to. > Right, I get that. Fair enough. My point has been that Mac doesn't work for me. > But I must say, the expensive hardware (quad-core i7) kicks the pants > off of any other machine I've ever used. > I recently moved from a 32-bit single-core XP to a 64-bit dual-core Win7 (don't remember exactly what CPU, but it's Intel and newer/faster than the Core 2 Duo). Video processing is waaay faster, compiling C++ is slightly faster, and everything else I do is...pretty much the same. All of it already ran fine on the old system, so there's not much left for this one to improve on speed-wise. > >> And don't get me started on the trackpad. I *hated* using my Dell > >> touchpad on my Linux laptop every time after I had been using my > >> Mac trackpad. > >> > > > > I always considered trackpads completely useless until I got my > > current Asus laptop. It's surprisingly usable in a pinch, and in > > fact I honestly couldn't believe how much they've improved (or that > > they even managed to improve at all). And yet I still go for my > > trackball instead whenever possible because it's sooo much better. > > No, this is a multi-touch pad, not a synaptics touchpad (on most > standard laptops). Way different. The best feature is the 2-finger > scroll. Don't know how I lived without that! > Multitouch is standard on all laptops these days, including mine. In fact, this does 2-finger scroll, too (I did it just now), and has a bunch of other gestures including 3-finger ones, and all totally configurable. Two-finger scroll is ok, but personally I *much* prefer the "circular"-motion scrolling (forget what they call it) - it's actually just about as good as a scroll wheel. > And I've tried Apple's magic mouse, it sucks. Is that the one they had five or ten years ago as a "two-button scroll mouse" but was touch-sensitive instead of having actual mouse buttons? I've only come across one person who ever liked it - and it definitely wasn't me. > The trackpad is awesome. > I've used it. It's awesome, just like mine, in the sense that it's a trackpad that's not 100% useless. I'm still not of fan of them though. > > ech, I guess the corruption issues have been happening since OSX 10.6. > Many posts in the apple forums. > > I guess mail doesn't get the attention it needs over at Apple. > > Come to think of it, iCal kinda sucks too, I could live without that. > Apple is very A.D.D. They catch a whiff of something they want to do, go nuts with it (but not to the point of feature-completeness), and more or less forget about everything else. To this day, iTunes still can't play Vorbis like, uhh, every other music player in the world. iTunes used to be their pride and joy, now they just dick around with its button placements once in a while and use it as a convenient dumping ground for anything involving their handheld devices - ie, their latest interest. > > > > He was a salesman. Their job is to sell people on crap. > > Wow, have you ever liked anything in your life? Megaman's pretty fucking awesome ;) And I loved PalmOS. And Apple II, like I said. Got to drive a Saab 9-3 Turbo once, that was pretty cool. If I started talking about music, movies, videogames and TV shows I liked, I'd be here all night ;) > > Successfully unloading broken freezers on eskimos and dog shit > > to...anyone...isn't really deserving of praise or appreciation or > > anything but condemnation. > > Oh, I totally agree. Fuck all those salespeople, I just cut out the > middle man and go to dogshitfreezers.com. And they think I'm so > stupid, how's that commision check now? > Heh heh :) > >> I think if it didn't have a big apple symbol on the back, you would > >> be less inclined to try and destroy it :) Just my opinion. > >> > > > > I'm sure most people would assume that, particularly since I dislike > > something that "everyone knows is undeniably great". I know there's > > no way I can ever convince anyone of this, but I don't do things > > backwards like that: I hate apple *because* I don't like their > > products or their business. The other way around makes absolutely > > no sense. > > I think we probably are both a couple of pots calling each other > kettles, or... something. > Probably ;) > > > > *I* think that people wouldn't be so quick to praise Apple's last > > decade of products if they didn't have "Steve Jobs has returned!", > > "Designed by Jobs!" attached. (And the iPhone 5 obviously still has > > a lot of Jobs legacy, esp since it's basically the 4S with higher > > specs.) > > I think that's very wrong. My reasons for liking apple products are > because they are good products. I can explain my history if you > want, but I tend to think you won't believe it. > I was just (un)cleverly turning it around there. Didn't actually mean it. Although I don't doubt there *are* people like that out there... > No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying basing your perception of > a new product on your experience with another product from the same > brand is not always objective. And that's not always a bad thing -- > there's a reason humans learn from their experience. I never said > what's "popular" is good, that's BS. I'm saying past experiences > bias our decisions (all of us, myself included). I sure as hell will > *never* buy another motorola bluetooth headset again. > [...] > > Saying you don't like something because it's popular (not saying you > are saying that) is *still* an opinion driven by popularity! All fine, but I don't see how any of it leads you to conclude that I'm dismissing Apple products on account of them being from Apple. > > I personally will *never* sign up for facebook (sorry Andrei), and Bizarrely enough, I likely will, but only because these multiplayer-enabled mobile games (I'm working on one - hopefully it won't suck *too* bad) apparently need (for some definition of "need" ;) ) to support facebook-based login these days. So I gotta be able to test it. Will never use it for anything beyond that though.
