Dave-

This points out what I have said in an earlier
post.... 
There is way too much ego on the WL2K side of the
issue. Now they are making up data. As my Grandfather
used to say "You can tell how much someone thinks of
you by the quality of lie they tell you."

73 - Ken - N7QQU

--- n4zkf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Where do you see Winlink carries 75% of all traffic?
> Did you just pull that out of the air?
>  
> I have run a 4 port packet bbs for over ten years
> and still get about 300 plus bulletins a
> day thru it. So it's not all going thru "winlink".
>  
> Dave
> n4zkf
>  
> 
> 
> "Dr. Howard S. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as traffic is concerned... Winlink now
> carries upwards of 75% of all message traffic...
>  
> and it is incredibly efficient in doing so... 
>  
> just imagine if we had to use the other less
> efficient mechanisms to pass that traffic, 
>  
> there would be no room on the bands for anything
> else...
>  
> So I stick by my statement that Winlink is to be
> Congratulated for their efficient use of the
> spectrum
>  
>
__________________________________________________________
> Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM 
> KY6LA
> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
> Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
> "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"
> Website: www.ky6la.com 
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dave Bernstein 
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:38 PM
> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink is to be
> Congratulated!
> 
> 
> 
> Those two numbers are apples and oranges Howard, as
> I'm sure you 
> know. To assess efficiency, one must compare
> Winlink's spectrum 
> consumption with the percentage of *all* amateur
> communication 
> conveyed by Winlink. Does Winlink handle 3.8% of all
> amateur 
> communication around the world? Highly unlikely.
> 
>    73,
> 
>          Dave, AA6YQ
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Howard S.
> White" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Winlink now carries approaching 75% of all Ham
> message traffic and 
> yet only uses 3.8% of the spectrum.  The Winlink
> Development Team is 
> to be congratulated for inventing such a popular and
> efficient user 
> of the Spectrum.
> > 
> > With exciting new developments such as SCAMP which
> uses low cost 
> sound cards instead of expensive TNC's  and the
> Channel Busy 
> Detector to prevent interference to other users, the
> WDT has shown 
> that they can not only be among the creative leaders
> of Ham Radio 
> but are also sensitive to the concerns of others
> > 
> >
>
__________________________________________________________
> > Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM
>  KY6LA
> > "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
> > Formerly "Awfully Extremely Six Sado Masochist"
> > "Krazy Yankee Six Loves America"
> > Website: www.ky6la.com 
> > Member of ARES Management Team for Digital
> Networks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Skip Teller 
> >   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:08 AM
> >   Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink take over?
> > 
> > 
> >   Steve,
> > 
> >   Abraham Lincoln wrote, "You may fool all the
> people some of the 
> time, you can even fool
> >   some of the people all of the time, but you
> cannot fool all of 
> the people all the time.
> > 
> >   K4CJX wrote:
> > 
> >   "Winlink has not been invaded by any virus. The
> administrators
> >   periodically and routinely refresh the
> auto-acceptance list in 
> order
> >   to keep attempts down. Please do not take things
> out of context 
> in
> >   order to make your points. If you do not know,
> just ask. There is
> >   nothing to hide. "
> > 
> >   Really? Quoting from the March 5 bulletin posted
> by you on 
> Winlink:
> > 
> >   "IMPORTANT ALL-USER UPDATE, March 5, 2005.
> > 
> >   The Central Mail Server (CMBO) is being attacked
> by new virus's 
> from mail
> >   address books that contain Winlink.org
> addresses. These 
> Winlink.org
> >   addresses are attempting to put virus's back
> into the system. In 
> addition,
> >   there are approved Internet email addresses,
> which are also 
> contained in
> >   address books of infected computers that are
> making an attempt 
> to enter
> >   the Winlink system. We are catching an average
> of 1,500 of these 
> attempts
> >   daily. NO FUN!
> > 
> >   Effective Tuesday, March 8, at 00:00 UTC, in
> order to protect, 
> you, the
> >   user, as well as your email recipients, we are
> going to delete 
> ALL the
> >   current entries in the Acceptance list, and
> start a new list.  
> To make
> >   sure your favorite email recipients are
> contained in the 
> approved acceptance
> >   list, be certain to send them an email AFTER
> 00:00 UTC on March 
> 8 or thereafter.
> >   You may use multiple "TO" and "CC" addresses. It
> is a good way 
> to also
> >   insure that you are sending to a live and proper
> address."
> > 
> > 
> >   Steve, which Winlink lie do you want us to
> believe?
> > 
> >   Quoting from the ARLL letter, 
> http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/04/1029/, included in
> the
> >   Report and Order on Access BPL, ET
> >   Docket 04-37, the Commissioners wrote:
> > 
> >   "We similarly do not find that Amateur Radio
> frequencies warrant 
> the
> >   special protection afforded frequencies reserved
> for 
> international
> >   aeronautical and maritime safety operations,"
> the Commission 
> said. "While
> >   we recognize that amateurs may on occasion
> assist in providing 
> emergency
> >   communications," the FCC added. It described
> typical amateur 
> operations as
> 
=== message truncated ===


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