Hi Bill, I probably should have said a relatively easy system:) After all these years NOS stuff never seemed to get any traction. And it is nearly impossible for the average person to figure it out. I know that I have not been able to understand much of it myself and I am fairly computer literate although not a programmer. Even going to the JNOS site, it is just not something that would interest most people the way it is presented. It seems that you have to have a strong core group who build something and then they in turn promote their system to others and make sure it is something that key people know about (like the ARRL and similar ham organizations that represent ham radio in their respective country.
But you know it is not getting traction when you go to a NOS group and find that one with 15 members has 11 messages over a four year period of time! and the other with 29 members has 25 messages over a 4 year period of time! That pretty much tells it all, doesn't it. Sad but true. Even Linuxhams has little traction. I just took Ubuntu Linux off my second KVM switched computer here and put Win 98 back on the second machine. Maybe when I buy a new computer I will use my current Dell 2.53 machine for a Linux box again. Hard to find any really useful programs to run that I can not run on Windows XP and 98. Even Open Office, Firefox (my browser of choice) and other FOSS programs run on MS OS. I am not even sure that Pactor support is all that important for JNOS2. What we would need is some new compelling reason to go in a particular change of direction. At the moment the non ARQ keyboarding modes are still the primarily interest for the majority of digital enthusiasts. There is a small group who have interest in emergency communications and networking, but there just is no compelling system out there other than the default Winlink 2000 system which did the things mentioned above and is now having a huge percentage of digital mindshare. Do you have some idea of how many hams are running JNOS2 now? What they are doing with it? What can it really do? 73, Rick, KV9U -----Original Message----- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Vodall WA7NWP Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 17:03 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question about HF-email > What I have never understood is why we can not develop a system whereby HF > (or for that matter VHF/UHF) stations can gateway into the internet via some > basic system that does not itself require a complicated and fragile internet > system. It is probably not possible since the routing issues are the major > stumbling block and require a server system such as the Winlink 2000 > approach. But that makes for very fragile system that can fail, when failure > could be a serious issue during an actual emergency. But there may be no > alternative. We've been doing that for many years with JNOS and Linux... It's certainly nothing new. Setting it up is a bit of a battle but it's not hard, just takes some time to work through all the little challenges. The new support in JNOS2 for HF pactor is fills a big hole.. Bill - WA7NWP The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 6/14/2005 The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
