Yes, RM-11306 will definitely provide more space for semi-automatic 
operation -- to the detriment of everyone else.

    73,

        Dave, AA6YQ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Waterman, k4cjx" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> 
> RM-11306 is making an attempt to rectify this situation. On 40 
meters 
> for example, a station under "local or remote control, with a 
> bandwidth of over 500 Hz, cannot move from the 5 KHz space 
provided, 
> regardless of who else is there, including fully automatic 
stations. 
> 
> With P3, the signal is 2.4 KHz wide (-24) and when stations who 
are 
> not bound by Part 97.221 start moving in that 5 KHz space, where 
is 
> the "spirit" of Amateur radio?
> 
> Steve, k4cjx
> 
> 
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > No one owns a frequency, Steve. The sub-bands defined in 97.221 
are 
> > not defined for exclusive use by semi-automatic and automatic 
> > stations. You use of the verb "squat" is both legally incorrect 
and 
> > in complete opposition to the spirit of amateur radio.
> > 
> > The real issue here is lack of a band plan. Despite an explosion 
of 
> > new digital modes over the past several years, the ARRL has made 
no 
> > effort to update its band plan. Leadership on their part could 
have 
> > gone a long way towards reducing frictions such as these.
> > 
> >     73,
> > 
> >         Dave, AA6YQ
> > 
> > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Waterman, k4cjx" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The problem is not with PSK, the problem is with OLIVIA, whose 
> > users 
> > > have incorrectly determined that because their stations use a 
> 1000 
> > Hz 
> > > signal, that they must squat in the auto-forward Part 97.221 
sub-
> > > bands. In these sub-bands, the normal "listen before you 
> transmit" 
> > > criteria is a bit different since some of these stations are 
> > > unattended and under fully-automatic control. My question is, 
why 
> > are 
> > > OLIVIA stations there?  This is just excellent verification 
that 
> > > those using "local and remote control" must have somewhere 
else 
> to 
> > go.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Steve, k4cjx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At 06:42 PM 1/20/06, you wrote:
> > > > >I'm not concerned with finding fall guys, John, I'm 
concerned 
> > with
> > > > >eliminating the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I just don't understand the size of this problem
> > > > not being on PSK
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >A fundamental principle of amateur radio is that no one 
owns a
> > > > >frequency. If I find a clear frequency, I should be able to 
> use 
> > it
> > > > >without subsequent threat of QRM from remotely-controlled 
> > automatic
> > > > >stations that weren't QRV when I first checked.
> > > > 
> > > > Like we both have pointed out before, this will not
> > > > happen till we can copy someone with in 250 miles
> > > > of are own QTH  or their software can listen to every
> > > > digital known to man
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >PSK31 and its successors are certainly stimulating more 
> digital 
> > > mode
> > > > >QSOs. If you're thinking about this from the perspective of
> > > > >frequency ownership, I can see how you'd view this trend 
> > > negatively.
> > > > >If you're thinking about technical innovation and the 
future of
> > > > >amateur radio, however, the trend is undoubtedly positive.
> > > > >
> > > > >A reminder, John: the only automatic operations I would 
confine
> > > > >to "a small part of the band" are those whose software is 
> > incapable
> > > > >of listening before transmitting.
> > > > >
> > > > >     73,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > At the rate this is going there will be 68 new digital modes
> > > > in 10 years.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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