Yes, RM-11306 will definitely provide more space for semi-automatic operation -- to the detriment of everyone else.
73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Waterman, k4cjx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave, > > RM-11306 is making an attempt to rectify this situation. On 40 meters > for example, a station under "local or remote control, with a > bandwidth of over 500 Hz, cannot move from the 5 KHz space provided, > regardless of who else is there, including fully automatic stations. > > With P3, the signal is 2.4 KHz wide (-24) and when stations who are > not bound by Part 97.221 start moving in that 5 KHz space, where is > the "spirit" of Amateur radio? > > Steve, k4cjx > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > No one owns a frequency, Steve. The sub-bands defined in 97.221 are > > not defined for exclusive use by semi-automatic and automatic > > stations. You use of the verb "squat" is both legally incorrect and > > in complete opposition to the spirit of amateur radio. > > > > The real issue here is lack of a band plan. Despite an explosion of > > new digital modes over the past several years, the ARRL has made no > > effort to update its band plan. Leadership on their part could have > > gone a long way towards reducing frictions such as these. > > > > 73, > > > > Dave, AA6YQ > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Waterman, k4cjx" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The problem is not with PSK, the problem is with OLIVIA, whose > > users > > > have incorrectly determined that because their stations use a > 1000 > > Hz > > > signal, that they must squat in the auto-forward Part 97.221 sub- > > > bands. In these sub-bands, the normal "listen before you > transmit" > > > criteria is a bit different since some of these stations are > > > unattended and under fully-automatic control. My question is, why > > are > > > OLIVIA stations there? This is just excellent verification that > > > those using "local and remote control" must have somewhere else > to > > go. > > > > > > > > > Steve, k4cjx > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > At 06:42 PM 1/20/06, you wrote: > > > > >I'm not concerned with finding fall guys, John, I'm concerned > > with > > > > >eliminating the problem. > > > > > > > > Maybe I just don't understand the size of this problem > > > > not being on PSK > > > > > > > > > > > > >A fundamental principle of amateur radio is that no one owns a > > > > >frequency. If I find a clear frequency, I should be able to > use > > it > > > > >without subsequent threat of QRM from remotely-controlled > > automatic > > > > >stations that weren't QRV when I first checked. > > > > > > > > Like we both have pointed out before, this will not > > > > happen till we can copy someone with in 250 miles > > > > of are own QTH or their software can listen to every > > > > digital known to man > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >PSK31 and its successors are certainly stimulating more > digital > > > mode > > > > >QSOs. If you're thinking about this from the perspective of > > > > >frequency ownership, I can see how you'd view this trend > > > negatively. > > > > >If you're thinking about technical innovation and the future of > > > > >amateur radio, however, the trend is undoubtedly positive. > > > > > > > > > >A reminder, John: the only automatic operations I would confine > > > > >to "a small part of the band" are those whose software is > > incapable > > > > >of listening before transmitting. > > > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > > > > > At the rate this is going there will be 68 new digital modes > > > > in 10 years. > > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/