Oh, I see, Steve. You believe that the internet is insufficiently
reliable, despite the multi-billion dollar investments by telecom
companies and suppliers, governments, and research institutions. Thus
there's an opportunity for amateurs to build a more reliable means of
conveying email thats independent of the internet using HF links.
I'm sure there are people on the planet who view the internet as
insufficiently reliable, but most of them are in uniform, and have
the multi-billion dollar budgets required to build and maintain
networks sufficiently reliable for their purposes. My guess is that
they don't use HF either; they use some combination of fiber and
satellites, and are researching entangled quantum bits for their next
generation of capability.
The rest of us think the internet is just fine, except when the power
goes down or the local ISP runs into trouble. Overcoming such outages
is a MUCH simpler problem than replacing the internet with an HF-
based system as Walt -- and evidently you -- suggest.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hajducek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> At 01:59 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote:
> >Re: "The technical world, and especially amateur radio should rise
> >above that in concerted efforts to accomplish desired common
goals."
>
> Amend to that !
>
>
> >A prerequisite for concerted action is to clearly state the goal,
and
> >to have that goal make sense.
> >
> >To me, pronouncements from inept bureacratic organizations are more
> >likely to contain anti-goals then goals.
> >
> >Since we have a worldwide internet that does a fine job of
> >transporting email messages, what's the rationale for building,
> >organizing, and operating an HF-based world-wide email transport
> >system that's entirely independent of the internet? The need for a
> >means of rapidly compensating for local internet outages is
obvious,
> >but you're proposing something many orders of magnitude more
> >comprehensive, complex, and expensive. The question is not "could
> >such a system be created"; it certainly could. The question
is, "why
> >should we build and deploy it?".
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Dave, AA6YQ
>
> My reply would that a reliable radio-to-radio e-mail system via
> HF/VHF such as an implementation of STANAG 5066 within the Amateur
> Radio Service would be just that, "a reliable radio-to-radio e-mail
> system via HF/VHF", unlike the actual Internet which is not
reliable,
> especially during various types of natural and man-made
> emergency/disaster scenarios.
>
> FYI - Open5066 has begun, see:
http://open5066.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> FYI - The NPHRN has a mandate of September 2007 that will drive
those
> that support it and that it supports, see:
>
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/planning/coopagreement/pdf/fy06guidance_qa2.pdf
>
> Just what will take place within the Amateur Radio Service WRT
STANAG
> 5066 is unknown at this time, in the U.S. nothing will take place
> until the FCC bring the rules up to date and even then it will
depend
> on just how much they update the rules as to just what can be
> accomplished on HF. Other countries do not suffer the same
> limitations and then some other countries suffer worst limitations,
> it an age old story in that regard.
>
> What is obvious to me and many if not all is that for the Amateur
> Radio Service to really be effective as a "Service" and not just a
> way to have fun with radio, we need to have a full blown
> radio-to-radio e-mail (or automated radio relay if you prefer)
system
> in place worldwide to meet the demands of the Amateur Radio
Service,
> be it based on STANAG 5066 or whatever and it needs to be done use
> the PC Sound Device Modem (PCSDM) and before anyone laughs at that,
> STANAG 5066 is already being done via the PCDSM commercially, refer
> to: http://www.skysweep.com/binaries/doc/SkySweepMessenger.pdf
>
> P.S. - ALE is at the Physical Level of STANAG 5066
>
> Sincerely,
>
> /s/ Steve, N2CKH
>
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