I have been using the bottom part of 160, since I started with 160, without anyone complaining. That is, after we were allowed the whole of the band, and didnt have to fiddle around trying to stay out of the radio location areas. Those were a real pain, having been in different portions of the band, for different areas of not on the country, but the world. Back then, having a DX window, etc. made some sense, but no longer does. take DX where ever it is. I have had people come in and say I am in the DX window, when I am working DX. ????
Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk ----- Original Message ----- From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 160M digital meeting place > Danny, > > If we don't stay with the bandplans, then we can be sited by the FCC for > not following "good amateur practice." The ARRL Bandplan is the defacto > bandplan for the U.S. That is why I don't venture out of the digital > part of 160 meters when using digital text modes. Ideally, CW stations > should not be using 1800-1810 as that is reserved for digital modes. The > bandplan does permit CW there, of course, but that is because CW has > special dispensation yet across most all of the ham bands (except 60 > meters) here in the U.S. > > If you set your dial frequency to 1808 USB and put your signal at 1000 > Hz on the waterfall, you are really operating on 1809 and that is > getting very close to the CW QRP frequency of 1810. > > An alternative frequency could theoretically be the 1.995 - 2.000 > "experimental" area, but that is right close to the 1.999 beacon frequency. > > Do I agree with these bandplans for 160? No I do not, but we would have > to get them changed to our liking if we wanted to operate differently. > > What I really would like to see is narrow band modes (CW, PSK31) at the > bottom of the bands, medium digital modes ~ or < 500 Hz (RTTY, DEX, > MFSK16) above that, and wide band digital > 1000 Hz above that and below > voice frequencies. But that is not possible at this time because the FCC > has continued to divide by type of mode rather than bandwidth. > > I am not too worried about missing any DX on 160 and consider it lucky > to copy stations within a 1000 miles or so:) > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > > > > Danny Douglas wrote: > > >Again, I see no reason why we would want digital signals down that low in > >such a wide band. That first 25 KC or so is used heavily by CW stations > >both here and DX. I dont care what someone else arbitraily decided was the > >"bandplan" for digital. Those bandplans are NOT worldwide, and until they > >are, they make no sense DX wise. We should go with the flow. Its the same > >with mixing SSB all up and down the band, just makes no sense. > > > >I also dont see why we even need to mention where your, or my, VFO is set. > >Simply give the "final" freq where the signals will be in the waterfall. > >Each of us has different offset, according to our own equipment, and all > >that does is confuse the issue. IF I spot something on 1.876, that is where > >it is on the waterfall, and if your software doesnt take you there > >automatically (very unlikely it wont) then its up to you to figure out your > >offset. It is certainly the one item that confuses new people when they get > >into digital radio, because they are seeing spots listed every which way. > >The great majority of software packages (including every one I have used) > >takes the offset into consideration and properly sets the VFO and then the > >tracking mark on the waterfall falls right on the proper spotted freq. You > >can almost bet someone doesnt know how to set their offset, or spot > >correctly, when you see them spot exactly on 14.070 or 14.069 every time. > >Thats their VFO freq, and the real station is someplace a few cycle to > >hundreds of cycles from that. > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/686 - Release Date: 2/14/2007 7:54 AM > >