David WD4KPD, I guess the "bring it on" means you want a response. I noticed reading many of your replies that you leave these types of remarks below your name/call when you reply to message posts to get a point across for what ever reason so I can only assume by what you have listed before on other posts you want me to respond or as you say "bring it on".
I for one want to let you know that I did NOT provoke a response like you have given me but my post was in good and positive spirit of Ham Radio. I also did NOT post the 30 Meter Digital QRP Weekend to be belittled by you or anyone else you have voiced your opinion and I can't change that nor will I try but by you voicing it publicly you are trying to sway others in your views they will have to decide what is right and wrong or what they agree or disagree with according to facts so far the facts are not on the Internet but by listening to the great bunch of digital ops on the 30 Meter band that have no intentions of contesting on the 30 Meter band. If you don't mind David I will answer your post publicly since you were so fast at responding to my message post that again didn't warrant such a reply you have given it but then again you have your own opinions so that is a right no one can take away and many have died for you to have that right here in the good old USA. "for all intents and purposes, this non-contest is still a contest" ..Right from the start your reply message changes my message post from a 30 Meter Digital QRP Weekend to ANOTHER NON-CONTEST ON A NO CONTEST BAND is of a mean spirited nature and negative and I'm not sure why that is but that is your call (many times I just use my delete key if not intersted)....for those of you that do decide to work the 30 Meter Digital QRP Weekend on April 19/20 you are going to be very disappointed if you are looking for a contest. All you are going to find is a bunch of really nice digital ops making casual contacts, experimenting with low power, long ragchews and DX if the band allows....you will NOT find is any rules on about a contest because there is no contest no rules for exchange no time limits ..no points .no logs are requested to be sent in for any contest prize for the weekend because there are none .the only winners are those that participate and have fun. "there is a sponsor" .a sponsor is one that spends money maybe on a contest or something and I guess would give out prizes for those winners and might gain something from all this. Again we might be putting the word out to give 30 Meters a try and we do hope for more Hams to participate on the 30 Meter band so that is true (could care less if they join the 30MDG because our main focus or goal is to have an increase awareness and usage of digital modes on 30 Meters if they join in 30MDG so be it but not our goal) ..having fun on Ham Radio is FREE and we don't spend any money on FREE fun again there is no winner for the most contacts or having the most points on the QRP Weekend because again David there are no points, contest like exchanges or contact limits and good luck on having fast contacts because there is a nice bunch of long winded ragchew digital operators on the 30 Meter band so you will have a hard time getting to that next contact very quickly even if you wanted to. "and bragging rights are earned by contesters in the organization" .oh really? I think bragging about how far a QRP signal may go or who hears your low power signal and maybe how many contacts you make using low power and to what areas of the World those contacts are made is what we do all the time, right? You David post your MEPT reports and I don't think that is contesting on 30 Meters yet it is bragging of sorts and very informative (thanks for doing that by the way). BTW, we are NOT an organization but a group of average `Joe" digital operators just having fun on the 30 Meter band. I agree though there are some contesters in our group and some darn good ones, I understand you don't like contesting and that is fine and you have that right to not like it as I'm not much on contesting myself but even though there are contesters in our group doesn't mean they are contesting on the 30 Meter band in fact just the opposite as I think from reading the mail on many of them since 30 Meters is a WARC band and a NO CONTEST band they seems to like this place to come to and ragchew and get to know other Hams vs when on the other bands getting hammered by folks just needing a fast contact and 599 report to get them in the log and sometimes QRM'd to the degree they couldn't carry on a good ragchew if they wanted to. "it may be legal" .yes it is legal to use the 30 Meter Band (we are secondary users should give way to gov/com'l transmitions also be kind to our neighbors in QSO with the modes we use..and follow the rules or our license), unless you are now in charge of the rule making David and we no longer can use the 30 Meter band or promote the use of the 30 Meter band .I for one will be using the 30 Meter band. "but still in poor taste" really? What would you suggest David to promote the 30 Meter band? I'm all ears and you can list all your ideas here or email me direct if you wish. What I think is in poor taste is some of your replies to others here and your negativity so although you have the right to have your own opinions just don't be surprised if not everyone agrees with you yet the silent majority sit back and read all this but never reply because they already know how silly it all is yet the `squeaky wheel gets the oil' although many of your posts are very informative and again I respect you but that is a two way street my friend. So you have said your peace and although I don't agree with you you have the right to your views I just don't agree with you but can still respect you (I think). I don't expect you to join in on the 30 Meter Digital QRP Weekend as you have made your views public and known (although if you listen in you are going to be very disappointed if you are a contester or expecting a contest on 30 Meters because there isn't one) and I don't really want to change your mind on your opinions as you have that right but as far as your `poor taste' and `bring it on' with in your reply to my simple posting of a 30 Meter event that I thought others that are digital operators might be interested in (this is a digital group right?) I would expect nothing less than an apology to me not for your opinions because again you have that right to disagree with anything you like or that you disagree that it is a contest (which it isn't but again you have the right to your views) but an apology for your `poor taste' in a response that only would provoke a `bring it on' response back to you. BTW, I have read some of your posts and never replied but could have I don't agree with you starting a message post as "SCREW" this or that .or "intentional QRM" yet I sit and read but I feel many times things are better left unsaid (wish this was one of them but again you asked) and let others be the judge and jury and just try to enjoy what time I have in this great hobby we have. I will be promoting the use of the digital modes on the 30 Meter Band and at most post a message post here once a month at the very most to let other digital operators know of these 30 Meter events that is of course unless this really isn't a Ham Radio Digital Yahoo Group or Andy thinks otherwise...ask anyone that knows me or google me, I'm a straight shooter and call it the way I see it if asked you asked so thanks for letting me respond. De kb9umt Don www.30meterdigital.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/20283 intentional QRM for all intents and purposes, when "Winlink" transmits into the blind on a shared channel, that is intentional QRM. so by doing so, they are advocating QRMing others just as i suggested. i agree that my language was a bit overboard, and apparently in poor Spirit, but please don't point me out as the sole abuser. i promise Andy, this will be my last on this issue. david/wd4kpd http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/20260 screw WINLINK "Live with it, and get used to it" then QRM it. david/wd4kpd Re: [digitalradio] screw WINLINK Just a friendly reminder that a rule of this group is that we adhere to normal operational rules and not advocate deliberate interference. Andy K3UK On 3/9/07, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Live with it, and get used to it" then QRM it. david/wd4kpd http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/17951 CHAOS since CW is ok anywhere in the band, perhaps all the cw ops might abandon the (gonna be crowded for sure) special cw area down low and simply stake out an area in the lower ssb area. this would give the digi folks a bit more room free from qrm. not to knock cw, but enough cw operations would drive any ssb away. david/wd4kpd anarchy and chaos always win ! --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 30 Meter QRP Weekend April 19th & 20th > > 10.140 +/- 1000 PSK > (10.135 10.145 HELL,OLIVIA,RTTY,Etc) > > > for all intents and purposes, this non-contest is still a contest. > there is a sponsor, and bragging rights are earned by the contesters > in the organization. > > it may be legal, but still in poor taste. > > david/wd4kpd > > "bring it on" > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 30 Meter QRP Weekend April 19th & 20th > > 10.140 +/- 1000 PSK > (10.135 10.145 HELL,OLIVIA,RTTY,Etc) > > > for all intents and purposes, this non-contest is still a contest. > there is a sponsor, and bragging rights are earned by the contesters > in the organization. > > it may be legal, but still in poor taste. > > david/wd4kpd > > "bring it on" >
