Hello Tony,

Interesting figures! I have compared with my own measures (only done on a 
sub-set of the Contestia modes). They are very close to yours.

Just a remark: I consider that a Word is 6 characters, so "Words Per Minute"= 
Char/s * 10 (10=60 seconds/6 characters/word). 

As a thumb rule:
For a same sub mode: Contestia has a double speed (+3 dB) but only 1.5 dB of 
loss in term of minimum S/N compared to Olivia. So it seems to be a better 
compromise.

73
Patrick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:59 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Olivia - Contestia Tone / Bandwidth Configuration





  All, 

  It's interesting to see how the different Olivia mode configurations compare 
when put through the HF path simulator. 

  I ran Contestia through the simulator this evening and these are the results. 
Olivia 16/500 is shown for reference. 

  CONTESTIA 500Hz  

  Tones     Bandwidth    Char/s    minimum SNR     Words Per Minute
     
     4            500               7.81             -6db                       
  94
     8            500               5.86             -9db                       
  70
    16           500               3.90            -13db                        
46
   *16          500               2.00             -14db                        
24
    32           500               2.44            -15db                        
29
    64           500               1.46            -17db                        
17
  128           500               0.85            -20db                        
10

  *Olivia 16/500 mode

  CONTESTIA 1000Hz 

  Tones     Bandwidth    Char/s    minimum SNR     Words Per Minute

     4          1000Hz           15.6             -3db                      187
     8          1000Hz           11.7             -6db                      140
   16          1000Hz             7.8             -9db                        94
   32          1000Hz            4.9             -12db                      59
   64          1000Hz             2.9            -14db                      35

  CONTESTIA 250Hz

  Tones     Bandwidth    Char/s    minimum SNR     Words Per Minute

    4               250               3.91           -12db                      
46
    8               250               2.93           -13db                      
35
  16              250                1.95          -15db                       
23
  32              250                1.22           -17db                      
15
  64              250                0.73          - 20db                      
8.8


  It's clear by looking at the chart that the slower the throughput, the better 
the weak-signal performance. This no doubt has to do with symbol rate etc 
(experts comments welcome). Reducing the number of tones by half will yield 
1-to-4db better weak signal performance, but at the cost of slower wpm rate. 

  The nice thing about being able to change the configuration is that it lets 
you try different combinations to squeeze the most out of the modes to suit 
conditions.  

  The modes with the higher tones are extremely sensitive so the skies the 
limit in terms of weak signal work as long as you don't mind the slow pace.

  It pays to take a good look at each configuration and compare; for example; 
Conestia 32/500 mode vs. Olivia 16/500. 

  The Contestia mode is 5 wpm faster and slightly more sensitive than Olivia. 
This simple change lets you pick-up the pace without sacrificing weak signal 
performance. 

  For those who are conscious about spectrum; take a look at Contestia modes 
8/250 and 64/1000Hz. 

  They both have the same wpm speed and nearly the same sensitivity, but the 
8/250 mode performance is the same and it does it in 1/4th the bandwidth.

  Getting late here so will have to wrap it up and let the group look at the 
figures and send some feed back. 

  Hope you all find it interesting... 

  Tony -K2MO



  

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