Hi Skip But why is a mode like WINMOR allowed in US? I know it is not SS , but you can't monitor the traffic. If I have not totally misunderstood, that is one of the criteria for using a digi mode on the band.
Just a thought , but it seems that some part of the FCC rules are more important to follow than others. 73 la5vna Steinar On 21.02.2010 16:17, KH6TY wrote: > Thank you, Steinar, but there have been serious attempts to dominate the HF bands with wideband modes for what is basically a private system use, and the FCC acted to protect the bands from that abuse, so while it is sad for us right now, what the FCC has done in the past has protected all hams worldwide from such abuses, even if you do not realize it. I do think ROS should be allowed, but until fully reviewed by the FCC, their are correct in not allowing ROS to be used except on an experimental basis. Believe me, there are much more dangerous fish in the sea! > > 73 - Skip KH6TY > > > > > Steinar Aanesland wrote: >> I feel really pity for you , my American HAM friends >> >> 73 de la5vna Steinar >> >> >> >> On 21.02.2010 14:23, Dave Wright wrote: >> >>> I'm with you, Skip. While I appreciate the effort Jose put into this mode, I >>> won't be using it on HF. >>> >>> The article quoted as justification of the legality of ROS was written by >>> the Italian developer of Chip64 who is not under the jurisdiction of the >>> FCC. The ARRL lists it only as a technical reference to the mode. Since >>> the ARRL is NOT the regulatory agency, it really only matters what shows up >>> in Part 97; and under Part 97, Chip64 is also illegal on HF in the US. >>> >>> Dave >>> K3DCW >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 AM, KH6TY <kh...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Thank you for your opinion, but need to be told to "calm down" as I am not >>>> excited! The FCC rules are plain and the description of ROS by the author is >>>> frequency hopping, whether within a phone signal bandwidth or not, so that >>>> identifies it as spread spectrum. I am sure the FCC rules were intended to >>>> prevent overly wide signals on HF using spread spectrum and therefore they >>>> only permit spread spectrum above 222 Mhz, where there is plenty of room. >>>> >>>> ROS is a really nice mode, but I will be using it only on 432 Mhz, in >>>> accordance with our FCC regulations. 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