Andy, as you note we have problems with old versions thats days. Software did 
not start decode. I expect you began to do test with this new version.

Perhaps, you will change of opinion.




________________________________
De: Andy obrien <k3uka...@gmail.com>
Para: nietoro...@yahoo.es
CC: digitalradio <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: jue,25 febrero, 2010 01:35
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

  
Incorrect Jose.  I have used it, and havw made special efforts to get other to 
use t on my web page http://www.obriensw eb.com/sked/ sked.php? 
page=digital&switch=1


Example, see below.. all my efforts to help people...



MM/DD  UTC
02/23 16:03 <KQ7W > 5r8kh copied me.. nice dx
02/23 16:02 <G4ILO > What power are most people using as a matter of interest?
02/23 16:00 <KQ7W > n4qlb gotcha.. all good
02/23 15:52 <KQ7W > howdy
02/23 15:50 <N4QLB > Now on 21.130.20 ROS 16baud
02/23 15:49 <K3UK > 14101 RX: <15:48 UTC> <15.6 Hz.> CQ CQ CQ de KQ7W KQ7W KQ7W 
My email is: <m...@mats4d. com> <m...@mats4d. com> <m...@mats4d. com> <STOP>[x]
02/23 15:48 <K3UK > Break time. 73[x]
02/23 15:48 <N3TL > Thank Andy. I'll continue to test, and want to work other 
bands, too. Want to work W6SZ on 20 first,
02/23 15:47 <K3UK > Nothing on 40M[x]
02/23 15:45 <K3UK > checking 7057[x]
02/23 15:45 <K3UK > 14101 RX: <15:44 UTC> <-78.1 Hz.> CQ CQ CQ de YV4GJN YV4GJN 
YV4GJN pse k <STOP>[x]
02/23 15:43 <N4QLB > CQ ROS 7.057.20
02/23 15:40 <K3UK > Yes Michael, very quickly.[x]
02/23 15:40 <K3UK > Congrats Tim ! My decode improved after I pressed 'clear 
frame" may be coincidence. .. but[x]
02/23 15:39 <N4QLB > k3uk Lost you in QSB Andy (ROS)
02/23 15:38 <N3TL > Finally ... my frist ROS contact
02/23 15:38 <N3TL > Wow ... just worked YV4GJN and decode was perfect.
02/23 15:37 <K3UK > 2 QSOs same time, about 60Hz apart. RX: <15:36 UTC> <23.4 
Hz.> CQ CQ CQ de W6SZ W6 RX: <15:36 UTC> <-85.9 Hz.> tnx fer QSO, 73. N3TL de 
YV4GJN sk My email is: <yv4...@yahoo. com> <yv4...@yahoo. com[x]
02/23 15:35 <K3UK > RX: <15:33 UTC> <-85.9 Hz.> My name is: FRANCESCO My QTH 
is: Valencia Venezuela, Locator: FK50xf <STOP>[x]
02/23 15:34 <K3UK > There u go Tim.... RX: <15:32 UTC> <-85.9 Hz.> N3TL N3TL de 
YV4GJN YV4GJN YV4GJN kn <STOP>[x]
02/23 15:32 <N3TL > Just decoded a YV4 here!
02/23 15:32 <K3UK > 2 CQs[x]
02/23 15:32 <K3UK > 14101 RX: <15:31 UTC> <-85.9 Hz.> CQ CQ CQ de YV4GJN YV4GJN 
YV4GJN pse k <STOP> RX: <15:31 UTC> <23.4 Hz.> uQ CQ CQ de W6SZ W6SZ W6SZ pse k 
<STOP>[x]
02/23 15:32 <G6LUG > Tim....nothing heard on 14112 so far. Path is 4094 miles.
02/23 15:30 <N3TL > QSY to 14.101 to listen. Thank you!
02/23 15:28 <K3UK > Someone just CQ 14101, 1.7 decoded partial, 1.6 not at 
all.[x]
02/23 15:27 <N3TL > CQing 14.112 now
02/23 15:24 <K3UK > I have BOTH 1.6.2 and .1.7.0 running at same time now... 
will what happens.[x]
02/23 15:23 <N3TL > RRR ... if I can't decode anything in the next hour or so, 
I'll try it again as a test. Thank you!
02/23 15:21 <K3UK > 1.6.2 , yes[x]
02/23 15:21 <N3TL > I must be in some kind of ROS black hole this morning - 
hearing no signals on 20.
02/23 15:21 <G6LUG > I'm calling CQ on 14112. I'm using version 1.7.2.
02/23 15:17 <N3TL > V 1.6.2? That may be the one that decoded for me, actually.
02/23 15:17 <K3UK > 2 signals on 14101[x]
02/23 15:16 <K3UK > A signal now, ROS16, on 14101[x]
02/23 15:14 <K3UK > What version are you using ? I find version 1.2 does betetr 
that latest versions[x]
02/23 15:12 <N3TL > Andy - One line over the weekend. That's it, despite really 
strong audible signals here yesterday.
02/23 15:12 <K3UK > weak ROS 16 around 14103 now[x]
02/23 15:09 <K3UK > Tim, have u decoded ANY ROS signals[x]
02/23 15:04 <N3TL > I just CQd @ 14.112 - but really need to find some signals 
because I can't seem to decode here.
02/23 15:01 <K3UK > I am listening...[x]
02/23 15:00 <N3TL > @ N4QLB - Are you transmitting or monitoring?
02/23 14:59 <K3UK > 14112 N4QLB ROS 16[x]
02/23 14:56 <K3UK > I get the pilot tone strong and centered but no deocde on 
14112[x]
02/23 14:53 <G6LUG > Well, It would be a QSO if EA3AQS heard him....he's 
calling QRZ now. WB0KGN was strong with me.
02/23 14:52 <G6LUG > EA3AQS in QSO with WB0KGN Olivia 32/1000 on dial qrg 
14.107 + 1500hz
02/23 14:50 <K3UK > maybe 14112[x]
02/23 14:49 <K3UK > Ok, that explains it. STrong ROS now around 14111, no 
decode...[x]
02/23 14:48 <G6LUG > There is Olivia AND ROS16 on 14107
02/23 14:46 <K3UK > WEak ROS16 14101[x]

Skeds for digital radio experiments including Winmor, ROS, and more.
Suggested calling frequencies: ROS 14101, 14109. JT65A : 21076, 18102,14076, 
3576. WINMOR: 3587, 7080 14112. Other modes: 1843, 3583,7073,10143, 
14073,14109( wide modes), 18103, 21073,24923, 28123MM/DD  UTC
02/23 14:45 <K3UK > No, maybe is Olivia[x]
02/23 14:44 <G6LUG > I've QSYd 14111, hrd tailend of ROS tx, but no decode.
02/23 14:38 <K3UK > ROS 16 14111[x]
02/23 14:34 <K3UK > 14074 Feld Hell, weak[x]
02/23 14:32 <K3UK > Strong signal now on 14101 but no deode. No pilot tone, so 
maybe not have him tuned in correctly[x]
02/23 14:31 <K3UK > Hello Hador, I heard your signals yesterday[x]
02/23 14:31 <G6LUG > OK Andy, Tnx for trying. I've had 5 e-mails from earlier 
CQs on 14101 (Italy and Hungary), so the e-mail software is working OK.
02/23 14:28 <K3UK > No hearing u Bob[x]
02/23 14:23 <G6LUG > cq ROS 14.103
02/23 14:18 <K3UK > OLivia, 14109[x]
02/23 14:11 <K3UK > 14101 ROS 16 RX: <14:10 UTC> <62.5 Hz.> CQ CQ CQ de W6SZ 
W6SZ W6SZ pse k&#253;&#202; <STOP>[x]
02/23 14:08 <K3UK > 14101, weak ROS16, no ID heard[x]
02/23 10:03 <K3UK > 20M showing signs of life..[x]
02/23 09:59 <G6LUG > ok, 73 for now. JI4POR was just CQing on 14101, but I had 
QRM from the VK3 QSO. Hard to believe HI.
02/23 09:57 <K3UK > back later... 73[x]
02/23 09:52 <K3UK > 20M still dead here..., maybe another hour before it 
opens[x]
02/23 09:50 <K3UK > Probably PACTOR on 14101[x]
02/23 09:50 <K3UK > As a Lancastrian, I could say it is "dull" all the time in 
Yorkshire...[x]
02/23 09:47 <G6LUG > ...another partial decode from VK3QX.....unfortuna tely I 
have QRM from EU stations on the frequency :-(
02/23 09:41 <G6LUG > Unfortunately there is a strong pulsing signal on 
14101....I'm not sure what mode it is - quite a wide signal
02/23 09:39 <G6LUG > First decode on 14.101 is a partial decode from VK3QX.
02/23 09:37 <G6LUG > GM, WX cloudy....just d/loaded the new version of ROS. 
Installed without a problem.
02/23 09:36 <K3UK > How are things in Hull today ?[x]
02/23 09:35 <K3UK > Morning Bob..[x]
02/23 08:42 <K3UK > QRV 14101, listen only... ROS-auto[x]
02/23 03:13 <KC5NYJ > 73
02/23 03:13 <K7TMG > GN all. K7TMG QRT
02/23 03:02 <K7TMG > OK, 14107 USB in Olivia 500/64
02/23 02:58 <K7TMG > Sure, what freq?
02/23 02:57 <LU2VC > anyone for 20 meters?
02/23 02:57 <K3UK > As Luc, said the email idea is very useful.[x]
02/23 02:56 <K3UK > Thanks, Sholto, Ted, Claudio[x]
02/23 02:56 <K3UK > OK, so much for that experiment.[x]
02/23 02:55 <LU2VC > Nothing in LU and strong ssb local qrm
02/23 02:55 <VE2FXL > nothing also Andy, 80m would be better
02/23 02:54 <KC5NYJ > i got nothing on 7073
02/23 02:54 <K7TMG > Nothing here yet Andy.
02/23 02:53 <KC5NYJ > it's SMTP using gmail's SMTP server and a gmail account
02/23 02:51 <K3UK > Folks, how does the email from ROS work? Some sort of mail 
server built in that conencts to Jose's site and then sends Gmail ?[x]
02/23 02:49 <K3UK > 10 watts[x]
02/23 02:49 <K3UK > white line in FL-Dgi is on 1000hz sholto[x]
02/23 02:49 <K7TMG > OK got it. Can you try again? What power level are you 
running?
02/23 02:49 <K3UK > center[x]
02/23 02:48 <VE2FXL > no copy
02/23 02:47 <K7TMG > Is that 1000Hz in the center of the transmission or do you 
mean from 1000Hz to 1500Hz ?
02/23 02:47 <VE2FXL > Still no email reply on 7040 but someone seems to call me 
back
02/23 02:47 <K3UK > 10 watts[x]
02/23 02:46 <K3UK > 7073 1000 Hz, 500-64[x]
02/23 02:46 <K7TMG > Sorry Andy, was away form the keyboard. What offset are u 
using?
02/23 02:46 <K3UK > Ok Claudio[x]


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM, jose alberto nieto ros <nietoro...@yahoo. es> 
wrote:

  
>Does not believe that even you, Andy. 
>I know you are a special interest ROS dont was used, i dont know why.
>
>
>
>
________________________________
De: Andy obrien <k3uka...@gmail. com>
>Para: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
>Enviado: jue,25 febrero, 2010 00:58
>Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far
>
>
>  
>I have had a few more days to test it and watch how it does in QRM.  Same 
>impressions, a good mode but not offering substantially more than the other 
>well known modes.  In a couple of specific tests, Olivia 500-128 did better 
>than ROS 1.
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Stelios Bounanos <m0...@enotty. net> wrote:
>
>  
>>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:05:36 -0000, "obrienaj" <k3uka...@gmail. com> 
>>>>>>> said:
>>
>>> In the few ROS 16 and ROS 1 tests that I have dome so far...
>>
>>> ROS 16 seems similar to Olivia 8/1000 , good performance but perhaps a
>>> not quite as good as Olivia under QRM or deep fades.
>>
>>> ROS 1 , not as good as JT65A in very poor conditions.
>>
>>> Anyone else have impressions, perhaps I am wrong... these are on-air
>>> impressions not lab tests.
>>
>>I wonder if there are any test results (or even on-air impressions
>>substantially different from Andy's) to explain what looks like the
>>proverbial elephant in the living room from where I'm standing... i.e.,
>>the fact that ROS is > 2000 Hz while Olivia nn/1000 and JT65A are 1000
>>and < 200 Hz respectively.
>>
>>Or is it now somehow cool to do the same thing as before but with a
>>2x-12x larger footprint on the bands?
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>73, Stelios, M0GLD.
>>
>>Reply to
>>
>
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