My friend, one thing is what i wrote, and other different is what ROS is.

If recommend you waste your time in doing something by Ham Radio, instead of 
criticism ROS.

I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue saying stupid things 
in this group.




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De: KH6TY <kh...@comcast.net>
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 13:18
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

  
> If MFSK16 was randomized would it magically become spread-spectrum?

Alan, sorry I forgot to reply to this question.

The answer is yes, but only if the following three conditions are ALL met (from 
the ROS documentation) :

1. The signal occupies a bandwidth much in excess of the minimum bandwidth 
necessary to send the information.
2. Spreading is accomplished by means of a spreading signal, often called a 
code signal, which is independent of the data.
3. At the receiver, despreading (recovering the original data) is accomplished 
by the correlation of the received spread signal with a synchronized replica of 
the spreading signal used to spread the information.

Standard modulation schemes as frequency modulation and pulse code modulation 
also spread the spectrum of an information signal, but they do not qualify as 
spread-spectrum systems since they do not satisfy all the conditions outlined 
above.

Looking at the comparison between ROS and MFSK16, http://home. comcast.net/ 
~hteller/ SPECTRUM. JPG, it is easy to see that MFSK16 is not FHSS, but ROS 
definitely is.

Another thing that a petition should include is a requirement that ROS only be 
used BELOW the phone segments and ABOVE the narrowband data segments. On 20m, 
that means only between 14.1 and 14.225, because ROS is so wide.

BTW, this same issue came up during the "regulation by bandwidth" debate when 
the ARRL HSMM (High Speed MultiMedia) proponents wanted to allow wideband, 
short timespan, signals everywhere with the argument that they last such a 
short time on any given frequency that they do not interfere, but the fallacy 
to that argument is that when you get a multitude of HSMM signals on at the 
same time, all together they can ruin communication for narrow modes, like 
PSK31. 

The other problem is that SHARING of frequencies requires that users of one 
mode be able to communicate with users of another mode in the same space so QRL 
or QSY can be used. It was realized that only CW used by both parties would 
make this possible. ROS does not work well in a crowded environment or with 
wideband QRM, so it must find a home relatively clear of other mode QRM. This 
is just another job the FCC must do in order to be sure a new mode does not 
create chaos. It has already been shown that leaving that up just to hams does 
not work, and the strongest try to take over the frequencies.

upper

73 - Skip KH6TY



Alan Barrow wrote: 
  
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>If MFSK16 was randomized would it magically become spread-spectrum?
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