I read the proposed rule making and did not find any reference to
frequency/band.  So, where is it saying SS is allow but only on 220Mhz and
above ?

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:11 PM, KH6TY <kh...@comcast.net> wrote:

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>
> Extensive tests on 70cm using ROS 16 baud spread spectrum have been
> disappointing. ROS appears to be unable to survive the Doppler shift and
> Doppler induced "flutter" so prevalent on that band. The hope was that ROS
> 16 baud would make traditional communications possible that were difficult
> on SSB phone because of the Doppler shift and "flutter". However, the tests
> show that Olivia 32-1000, in half the bandwidth, and Olivia 16-500, produce
> print when ROS only prints garbage. This, together with the fact that both
> stations must be within 400 Hz of each other before even trying to
> communicate, instead of being able to tune with the mouse as is possible
> with Olivia, makes it very difficult to achieve a QSO on 70cm using ROS.
> Olivia has therefore proven to be much more successful than ROS on UHF.
>
> Tests using the ROS 1 baud variation will be made next, but the slow speed
> of that mode is more suited to EME communications than normal QSO's.
>
> In two weeks of monitoring ROS 16 baud on 20m, there has been only one
> observed case where the S/N was under where Olivia 32-1000 can decode, so
> even on HF, there does not appear to be any justification for using such a
> wide mode, even if spread spectrum were permitted on HF in the US. Just use
> Olivia or MFSK16 instead when band conditions are poor. The new narrow band
> ROS modes were not tested, since a mode to do better than Olivia is what is
> needed, and the spread spectrum mode of ROS held the best hope. As it
> stands, only CW is better than Olivia under the worst conditions, and only
> when copying by ear, but CW is only a little better than Olivia 16-500. We
> have also found that the more narrow Olivia modes (i.e. < 500 Hz wide) are
> also too greatly disturbed by Doppler to be useful either.
>
> If anyone is within 200 miles of FM02, has 100 watts and an antenna gain of
> 17 dBi or greater, and would like to try ROS 16 baud on UHF, I am available
> to do that.
>
> I promised to post the results of our attempts to use ROS on UHF on this
> reflector, and this is what we have found. So, it looks like Olivia is
> currently still the best digital mode to use on UHF, VHF, or HF for normal
> (not EME) digital QSO's.
>
> 73 - Skip KH6TY
>
>
>
>
> Trevor . wrote:
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>
>
> Regarding Spread Spectrum Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM)
> http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/18/11396/?nc=1
>
> It proposes to reduce some of the restrictions on Spread Spectrum but
> unfortunately does nothing about permitting the use at HF and VHF of SS
> modes that completely fit within the bandwidth of a phone signal (say 3 kHz
> on HF and 15 kHz on VHF).
>
> It says comments can be filed on or before 30 days after date of
> publication in the Federal Register. Instructions on how to file comments on
> the NPRM only are listed on pages 6-7 in the NPRM.
>
> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-10-38A1.pdf
>
> Electronic Comment Filing System
> http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
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