El 18/03/2010 18:11, KH6TY escribió:


Extensive tests on 70cm using ROS 16 baud spread spectrum have been disappointing. ROS appears to be unable to survive the Doppler shift and Doppler induced "flutter" so prevalent on that band. The hope was that ROS 16 baud would make traditional communications possible that were difficult on SSB phone because of the Doppler shift and "flutter". However, the tests show that Olivia 32-1000, in half the bandwidth, and Olivia 16-500, produce print when ROS only prints garbage. This, together with the fact that both stations must be within 400 Hz of each other before even trying to communicate, instead of being able to tune with the mouse as is possible with Olivia, makes it very difficult to achieve a QSO on 70cm using ROS. Olivia has therefore proven to be much more successful than ROS on UHF.

I was also dissapointed on HF. To me, ROS is an incomplete solution that stands no comparison to other beter designed protocols already in use. FHSS per se is not a "miraculous solution". Even when having some processing gain, is not enough to stand and recover from the real world path impairments.

Tests using the ROS 1 baud variation will be made next, but the slow speed of that mode is more suited to EME communications than normal QSO's.

In two weeks of monitoring ROS 16 baud on 20m, there has been only one observed case where the S/N was under where Olivia 32-1000 can decode, so even on HF, there does not appear to be any justification for using such a wide mode, even if spread spectrum were permitted on HF in the US. Just use Olivia or MFSK16 instead when band conditions are poor. The new narrow band ROS modes were not tested, since a mode to do better than Olivia is what is needed, and the spread spectrum mode of ROS held the best hope. As it stands, only CW is better than Olivia under the worst conditions, and only when copying by ear, but CW is only a little better than Olivia 16-500. We have also found that the more narrow Olivia modes (i.e. < 500 Hz wide) are also too greatly disturbed by Doppler to be useful either.

Perhaps what is needed is a variant with wider tones/bins, modulated at a higher speed, so path perturbations have a lesser effect. Have you tried higher bandwidth and less tones ? Maybe you can find a better compromise (it will always be a compromise, I believe) that way.


If anyone is within 200 miles of FM02, has 100 watts and an antenna gain of 17 dBi or greater, and would like to try ROS 16 baud on UHF, I am available to do that.

I promised to post the results of our attempts to use ROS on UHF on this reflector, and this is what we have found. So, it looks like Olivia is currently still the best digital mode to use on UHF, VHF, or HF for normal (not EME) digital QSO's.

Skip, please do tell us. I am particularly quite curious about the results of your tests.

73,

Jose, CO2JA


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