Hello Dave, Don't sse ypou much anymore on HF WSJT ,changes in antenna?
OK and thanks. I contacted the people in VA and they replied right away. telling me that they had stopped the mode. as a result of this case and I believe a ruling / statement by ARRL ( probably only , no official FCC staements) Very hard to check what is true and false. The stop is TRUE though MT63 or 61 is in use with MARS But MT63 is no SS I believe (not published stepping patterns etc ) 73 Rein W6SZ -----Original Message----- >From: Dave Sparks <dspa...@pobox.com> >Sent: Jun 2, 2010 4:27 PM >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP > >IIRC = "if I remember correctly". > >The documentation issue stemmed from someone who complained that PACTOR, and >maybe other digital modes, could be considered "codes or cyphers", and the >FCC ruled that they weren't because they were publicly documented. The >source code has not been released by SCS, however. A public spec would >resolve the issue of whether ROS is SS or not. > >I can't locate a reference to this issue, but if no one else remembers it, I >will do a more intensive search on the subject > >I'm still wondering how CHIP-64 seems to be allowed on HF by the FCC. It is >admittedly Spread Spectrum. > >-- >Dave - AF6AS > >-------------------------------------------------- >From: <rein...@ix.netcom.com> >Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:01 PM >To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP > >> Hello Dave, AF6AS, >> >> "IIRC" what does it stand for? >> >> There has to be enough information to at least reverse-engineer a mode by >> the FCC (and the NSA). >> >> Is that documented somewhere, not that I want to question the statement or >> you..... >> >> What about something like: "Those need to be able to read/decode it under >> all circumstances " >> >> 73 Rein W6SZ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Dave Sparks <dspa...@pobox.com> >>>Sent: Jun 2, 2010 2:14 PM >>>To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >>>Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP >>> >>>Oops, I missed that. >>> >>>What I *THOUGHT* you were saying is that you tried making a call (to a >>>station with the current release) and succeeded. You might only be able >>>to communicate with stations within a narrow range of release numbers near >>>to the one you possess. >>> >>>I do think that demands for source code might be unnecessary, but IIRC a >>>complete specification of the protocol is necessary. That's why PACTOR is >>>legal. There has to be enough information to at least reverse-engineer a >>>mode by the FCC (and the NSA). >>> >>>-- >>>Dave - AF6AS >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Becker, WØJAB" >>> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that is what I said below now in RED >>> By my call I mean W0JAB >>> >>> >>> At 12:44 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > But since I have it on a flash drive I did install it on the laptop >>> and >>> > gave it a call other then my call and it worked fine. >>> > >>> > What do you think? >>> > >>> > I think even Ray Charles could see that. >>> > >>> > >>> > Jose, if I'm wrong in any way - feel free to >>> > jump in here and make any needed corrections. >>> >>> I'd be surprised if your version were still compatible with the >>> current >>> version. Did you try making up a call and trying to put that in the >>> program, just to make sure that it is your specific call that >>> terminates the >>> program and not any other random call? >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> AF6AS >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html >> Chat, Skeds, and "Spots" all in one (resize to suit) >> >> Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------ > >http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html >Chat, Skeds, and "Spots" all in one (resize to suit) > >Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >