Dear All, As there do not seem to be any alternative offers beside hosting on github, how should we proceed ?
- The code already seems to be on github : https://github.com/thomasvs/dirvish - The website can also be hosted on github : https://help.github.com/articles/setting-up-an-apex-domain-and-www-subdomain/ - The wiki needs some work before transfer, especially if we want to keep the history intact. I guess somebody (Keith?) needs to setup a github dirvish organization, and add people who want to help in the transition/take over maintenance in the future. This leaves the mailinglist as those do not have a place in github as they are now. So, what do people want to do with them ? As I see it, there are two questions that need answered : 1) What to with the archive ? 2) In what way do we want to interact with users who have questions in the future ? On storing the archive : A quick search turns up Nabble[1], alternatively we could try to convert the archive to HTML, and add it to the github pages. On interaction : As github doesn't have interacting possibilities that aren't related to the code (issues/pull requests) we have to decide whether dirvish needs those kinds of interaction. I think it's usefull for people to get some kind of help, bit I don't know in which way that should be. Nabble again looks interesting, but maybe gitter[2] is of more use to people. Anyway, if somebody sets up a github dirvish organization, I'd like to join the effort. Dag, Jan [1] http://www.nabble.com/ [2] https://gitter.im/ On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Mark E. Donaldson <[email protected]> wrote: > Keith: > > God bless you my friend. You've done great work and we all thank you. Now > go take care of yourself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Keith Lofstrom > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:33 AM > To: Dirvish List > Subject: [Dirvish] transferring dirvish.org/dirvish.com, RBL > > Administrivia about list and website continuity. > > 1) I have managed dirvish.org/com since jw schultz died, more than a > decade. Many individuals and organizations > have found dirvish useful. Managing the website and the > list was one way to say "thank you" to the free/open-source software > community, which has given me so much over the years. > > My neurologist tells me that I may be in the first stages of cognitive > decline, and that I should pass important responsibilities on to others. I > am also participating in some cutting edge research to cure the disease, > but that is another responsibility I must make time for. > > So, I hope some of you can decide what happens next with the website and > the mailing list. The website is plain vanilla HTML. The wiki is moinmoin > (python). The mailing list uses mailman (also python). The maintenance is > almost trivial, except for items like (2). > > Let's discuss this. There are 181 names on the mailing list, including > some long time contributors. While any responsible person with a website > and some skills can continue this, I would like some community discussion > and consensus before passing control to another. > > Please keep it civil. If you are eager to take over, but the community > chooses another, please help that other person. Your chance will come. > > > 2) 181 people are bound to include some troublesome ones. > On August 11, 2015 someone reported my IP address to the Realtime > Blackhole List. I was not notified. I am still investigating this. The > mail logs are on an old, rotated out dirvish backup drive which resists > mounting. I will share more information when I have it, but occasional > nonsense like this is the real cost of operating the list. > > Nothing shows up on the list archives, > http://www.dirvish.org/pipermail/dirvish/2015-August/date.html > > Over the years, a few spammers have signed up, and I kick them out as soon > as I notice. Sometimes they manage to post a spam or two to the list. If > this is intolerable to you, please do not sign up for mailing lists. If > your spam detection system automatically sends its results to RBL, please > do not sign up for mailing lists. > > When I find out who did this, I will remove them from the dirvish list, as > a favor to the next person who administers it. That person can reinstate > the person removed if they choose. Please support their decisions, or help > them implement better procedures. > > My guess is that this event was pure malicious vandalism by someone > besides us. Anybody can report anything they want to the RBL, a "guilty > until proven innocent" operation (it took four emails to get the dirvish > server off that list). > There are so many wonderful and helpful people here, it is difficult to > imagine that any of us could be so thoughtless. > > > 3) I'll close by saying you are an awesome group of people. > It has been a joyful inspiration to help others with you. > Never stop helping others. We are why F/OSS works. > > Keith > > -- > Keith Lofstrom [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Dirvish mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dirvish.org/mailman/listinfo/dirvish > _______________________________________________ > Dirvish mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dirvish.org/mailman/listinfo/dirvish > -- Dag, Jan
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