Marcus, thanks for keeping up-to-date projects on CGRAN! Since you've
always been actively involved, what would you like to see different
and/or improved? It can still be the place where your projects live,
I am just trying to make CGRAN more friendly to changes in the current
community and to be more supportive of newer projects. The clear
example has always been making it more git-centric.
I have no religious convictions about git vs svn.
I'd have to change a couple of scripts to pull from git if things were
migrated to git, but apart from that, it's no big deal for me.
I haven't actually used the web interface for CGRAN for quite some time.
So I don't have much of a feel for what exciting new things need
to go with any re-design.
I definitely think this needs a wider discussion, and keeping the
existing repo alive is a good thing, since there are folks using
CGRAN-resident
Gr-based tools.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com
<mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:
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On 09/29/2014 05:31 PM, George Nychis wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Chris and Martin. What I'm going to do
is keep CGRAN down until we have some sort of plan/resolution and
use it as a form of motivation. Every time I've managed to
resurrect CGRAN from the dead, I just leave it go and forget
about it for some time again. I think that the down time might
help us come to a conclusion sooner.
Several people have e-mailed me about access to the repository.
I was able to get the repo back up, and it should be anonymously
readable here: https://www.cgran.org/svn/projects
To address Chris' thoughts, I've always felt CGRAN was useful in
two aspects: 1) To find useful and up-to-date projects (albeit
rare), and 2) To find more historical projects that highlight the
capabilities of GNU Radio and SDRs and to resurrect and/or build
from them. I know the latter has been a killer, but I've found
multiple times that people came to CGRAN to dig up old code and
build something new from it. But if anything, these two types of
projects need to be clearly marked and separated. Academically,
I know that students are very willing to take brutally dead code
and use pieces of it for projects.
Maintenance over time is simply just difficult. Once projects
are complete, many people move on but GNU Radio keeps on
chugging. I know that I lost time to maintain my projects.
Pybombs could at least guide the user to get correct versions,
let them know there is a mismatch, etc. It can also provide the
link from a project to where the actual code and repository are.
I think that pybomb entries can point to github locations, right?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Martin Braun
<martin.br...@ettus.com <mailto:martin.br...@ettus.com>> wrote:
This is something that comes up at our dev calls (and other
dev meetings) regularly, and we really need to address it
sooner rather than later.
George, if the support burden is getting to much, we can
surely fix a short-term solution by migrating stuff to some
temporary location (let's take this specific discussion
offline, though).
In the future, we'd like to have something that ties in
nicely with Pybombs, and also uses the gits. How exactly,
that's something we need to decide, and any community input
on this is appreciated.
Cheers,
M
I have projects on CGRAN that are actively maintained. Most
notably, simple-ra. But also, simple_fm_rcv, meteor_detector,
multimode, and SIDSuite.
While I'm willing to find another place for them, it's, as one
might expect, a pain....
On 29.09.2014 11:01, George Nychis wrote:
The machine that runs CGRAN down in some basement
somewhere at Carnegie
Mellon has hit some issues again. Given that I'm no
longer at the
university, these issues are becoming harder for me to
address. At this
point, it's probably best for CGRAN to "move on" as we've
all been in
discussion about over time.
What I can do if everyone still finds CGRAN useful is:
1. Provide a more reliable host and machine for it
2. Update it to be more useful to the community
(e.g., more towards
git)
It still gets a lot of hits (~16,000 a month) and every
time it goes
down people hunt me down and ask when it's coming back
up. So it seems
as though the community still uses it.
I can update it with Pybombs or Gitlib or whatever people
feel is
appropriate. It can be more of a portal page even,
without a repository
if most people just use Github now anyway. Do people
still like it is a
standalone service, or is it better to just "roll it in"
to the GNU
Radio webpage somewhere now? I want to do whatever the
community finds
is most useful.
Thanks!
George
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