Thanks for the advice!
Try to do but continuously it is showing error Param - Value(value):
Value "numpy.sqrt((10.0**(-esno/10.0))/2.0)" cannot be evaluated:
name 'numpy' is not defined
how can i rectify this?
is there any already done grc files for evaluating ccsds

On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 9:55 PM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd try this:
> 1. Change the random source to a vector source with vector [ 0xFF, 0xFF,
> 0xFF, 0xFF, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 ] (that's 4 x
> 0xFF, 8 x 0x00)
> 2. Encoder output can go to the map input, then map to a charToFloat.
> CharToFloat to decoder.
> 3. Remove the entire noise branch. It doesn't make sense to add noise
> before the map anyways. Noise would normally be added as a float after
> charToFloat.
> 4. Vector source to a delay block, delay to one input of BER block.
> Decoder output to pack8 to BER block.
> 5. You'll have to experiment with the delay value. It's probably between 2
> and 8 bytes.
> 6. If you want to try to observe the delay between the source and the
> decoder, make a 2 input time sink and connect the unpack8 output after the
> vector source to one time sink input, and the decoder output to the other
> sink input. You should be able to see the sample delay between each block
> of inputs and compute the right delay from the difference.
>
> Good luck,
> Jared.
>
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 5:13 AM Jiya Johnson <jiyajohnso...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 9:15 AM Jiya Johnson <jiyajohnso...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But still  in  CCSDS case i am getting -0.3 only BER and not even
>>> saturating in FEC extended CC case(as per CCSDS Standard book it is
>>> dropping to 0 by 5dB)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 8:54 AM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, this has gotten more complicated since your original post. Why?
>>>>
>>>> A good place to start might be the example GRC as referenced on this
>>>> page https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=FEC_Extended_Decoder.
>>>> You can change the FEC definitions from LDPC to CC and add a BER block with
>>>> a delay b/w the input bytes and output bytes (bypass the char to float
>>>> after the decoder). Once that's working, you can replace the FEC encoder
>>>> with a CCSDS one.
>>>>
>>>> Jared.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 9:05 PM Jiya Johnson <jiyajohnso...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am getting need help pls look on the screenshot
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 8:23 AM Jiya Johnson <jiyajohnso...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will try and let you know
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 8:08 AM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably easier to use a vector source rather than text file. Vector
>>>>>>> source lets you specify the bytes exactly. So you could put in [ 0xdd, ]
>>>>>>> and be assured that byte will be output.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:32 PM Jiya Johnson <
>>>>>>> jiyajohnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I tried is 11011101( by inputting a text file )it's hex
>>>>>>>> version came in the output with (3131303131313031) like that with 
>>>>>>>> encoding
>>>>>>>> by left shifting I got the value theoretically and decode I got dd
>>>>>>>> (11011101) bt this worked over windows not in ubuntu,this output I have
>>>>>>>> done using messag debug option I am not aware whether it is the 
>>>>>>>> correct way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 7:58 AM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't understand what this means. How do you interpret it?
>>>>>>>>> Jared.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:25 PM Jiya Johnson <
>>>>>>>>> jiyajohnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 7:54 AM Jiya Johnson <
>>>>>>>>>> jiyajohnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to do with a simple input 11011101 without noise
>>>>>>>>>>> and with noise noise also
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 7:52 AM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Remove the noise completely. Also use a fixed, repeating
>>>>>>>>>>>> input vector rather than random bytes. Look at the actual error 
>>>>>>>>>>>> patterns
>>>>>>>>>>>> between the input and output bits. Sometimes error patterns can 
>>>>>>>>>>>> clue you in.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Check symbol polarity (i.e. 0=>-1, 1=>1, or 0=>1, 1=>-1)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Try the more general (non-CCSDS) extended encoder with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same params as the decoder.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Esp if 3 works, compare the output of CCSDS with general
>>>>>>>>>>>> extended encoder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 8:04 PM Jiya Johnson <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jiyajohnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the given modifications still I am getting a -0.300
>>>>>>>>>>>>> range of BER constantly from 0 to 15 dB range of SNR values.No 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> variations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I check the functionality of the block(encoder and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decoder to check whether it's encoding and decoding properly)with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sample
>>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 8:11 PM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing I noticed is that the encode CCSDS, decode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CCSDS, and BER blocks all  operate on packed bytes. (See e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=Encode_CCSDS_27).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To do this you would change your random source to output from 0 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 256 byte
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values. Also, considering the output of the decoder block are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> packed bytes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should probably skip the byte->float and binary slicer after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decoder and just input it's output directly into the BER block. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=Decode_CCSDS_27
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page it seems the delay out of the decoder is 4 bytes, so you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could add a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay of 4 between your source and BER block to align the two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streams.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 9:58 PM U L <jaredd...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I think might be an issue is that you have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delay between your source reference and your BER block. Usually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the FEC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decoders (and possibly the encoder?) may output blocks of 0s 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output the samples that correspond to your inputs. I don't know 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those FEC blocks specifically, but maybe the docs have some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delays. You can just insert a delay block b/w your random 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ber block to align the input and output bits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 4:28 AM Jiya Johnson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jiyajohnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Need help for BER plot using the above flowgraph its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always coming 10^-1.17 and whenever I tried to change the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise voltage the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values are not changing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the attached GRC file for your reference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Regards, JIYA JOHNSON*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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